Fone Bone
Matt Zimmer
Word of advice: Stay off 4chan. It is toxic. Your sanity will thank me.Oh my gosh, 4chan just called me an autistic n***** f*****. They are really proving that they have the moral high ground on Vic.
Word of advice: Stay off 4chan. It is toxic. Your sanity will thank me.Oh my gosh, 4chan just called me an autistic n***** f*****. They are really proving that they have the moral high ground on Vic.
The reason 4chan is targeting me is because I mentioned their insults towards this forum here. They created a thread complaining about how awful this community is and have singled out me and Light Lucario as their favorite members to make fun of for our opinions on stuff.
You would? He stands with Trump. And Trump is worse.If I called the 700 Club, I'd be shocked if Pat Robertson would stand with Vic.
You would? He stands with Trump. And Trump is worse.
Surprisingly Twitter is still a place with a huge pro Vic majority. I would think the idea of him being a Christian role model has been tossed out the window with the fact that he has admitted to breaking at least 5 Biblical commandments under oath. If I called the 700 Club, I'd be shocked if Pat Robertson would stand with Vic. Of course, the only illegal thing he explicitly admitted to doing was hiring hookers (I assume past the statute of limitations) so it looks like the pro Vic arguments are less about him being a model of Christian ideals than it was before and more about him being a law abiding citizen (prostitutes notwithstanding). At best, Vic is an unfaithful sleaze who emotionally betrayed his fiance and is about as bad as Jimmy Swaggart or Bill Clinton.
PicardMan said:Jamie Marchi's deposition was recently done and I wonder what information there is. Monica Rial's deposition is supposed proof that she is an evil liar and we'll see how this goes. It doesn't look like anybody who's not#IstandwithVic has really analyzed her deposition and it seems like there are two big pieces used against her. Firstly, the fact that one of the witnesses didn't remember an incident she brought up (the forcible kiss at the hotel room that Io9 reported), and her conduct with Vic. The various Youtube videos of her hugging Vic were used by his lawyers and #IstandwithVic to prove that she was not an assault victim. She responded by saying that it was a "work thing." This was a contradiction to her saying that "hugging is looked down upon in the work place." Vic's side is salivating thinking they got her.
PicardMan said:Chuck Huber has an interesting and shocking interpretation of the lawsuit. He seems to believe that Vic is a sex offender of sorts, but is forgivable. Even though he did lots of bad things, he believes that Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi are exaggerating his misdeeds. He believes that Vic deserves a second chance and is owed an apology. It is possible Vic wins if the judge thinks like that, so even Vic being a predator doesn't make this case unwinnable for him according to some.
PicardMan said:Can't wait for this all to end and the verdict to come in because this is ugly.
No, Dobson would defend him too. It's not about sinful behavior. It's about controlling women and hating the right people. And that's all the "Christian" right cares about.Yeah. Maybe he would forgive Vic like he forgave Swaggart. I guess if you commit sexual sin, it's okay if you feel bad about it and preach about Jesus. He at least lambasts ordinary people who have sex outside of ways the Bible endorses. Maybe James Dobson from Focus on the Family would be a better example of a Christian right spokesperson who'd be appalled by Vic's sexual behavior, although they'd probably share the same stance on homosexuality.
No, Dobson would defend him too. It's not about sinful behavior. It's about controlling women and hating the right people. And that's all the "Christian" right cares about.
It doesn't matter. Vic is One Of Them. Therefore his behavior is okay. That's how it works for all of the rightwing outfits.But Focus on the Family does seem to really hate sexual infidelity. Their page on infidelity attack a few men like TIger Woods, David Letterman, and Larry King. I do know that Dobson does believe in strict gender roles and women's subservience, but I don't know for sure if that overrides his organization's views on sexual purity. Well, I guess there's not really that much reason to speculate about how certain political/religious personalities would feel about Vic because the world of anime is so obscure to them. It would be cool to imagine some Christian figure calling him out on breaking the seventh commandment, but it seems like a lot of the famous ones are notorious for hypocrisy.
It doesn't matter. Vic is One Of Them. Therefore his behavior is okay. That's how it works for all of the rightwing outfits.
Anyone who sticks up for Trump will stick up for Vic.I don't really think all conservatives and republicans are like that. A good number of the famous firebrands maybe, but that seems like too big a net to cast.
I doubt they would be either. But that's how far the GOP has fallen since they died. HW and Barbara didn't vote for Trump either. Neither did W or McCain. I respect that.I would be surprised if we did a seance for Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, and Bush Sr. that all of them would be rape apologists.
That's not a defense.I live in the reddist part of the country and many women here support the GOP.
I agree. But I'm also not going to listen to anyone defend Dobson on this issue. His silence is deafening. He's a bad guy.Okay, I think the political talk is derailing the thread from being about Vic.
I agree. But I'm also not going to listen to anyone defend Dobson on this issue. His silence is deafening. He's a bad guy.
I don't actually think all Republicans are racist or evil. But it is very clear being racist and evil is not a deal-breaker in who they vote for. And that's almost as bad.As for the GOP, the party itself is probably messed up. I don't know much or get involved in politics, but my mom and female bestie are very vocal GOP people and I think they are good people. I guess I can understand talking smack to the party leadership, but I kind of get annoyed at the idea that all people who identify as Republican are evil.