"Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series)" News & Discussion Thread, Part 12 (Spoilers)

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Welcome to the twelfth installment in the on-going discussion about Ultimate Spider-Man, here on the Marvel Animation Forum!

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April 1st, 2012 - January 7th, 2017

The show might be over, but that doesn't necessarily mean the discussion has to stop. Use this thread to discuss the many aspects of Ultimate Spider-Man and its different sub-titles like Web Warriors or Versus the Sinister Six. With a total of 104 episodes, this is currently the longest running Marvel cartoon as well as the longest Spider-Man animated series produced so far.

Details about the final season:
In "Marvel's Ultimate Spider-Man Vs. The Sinister 6," Peter Parker finds himself in prime position – he's a successful hero after fighting alongside the Avengers, a S.H.I.E.L.D. Academy leader and has a great relationship with his Aunt May. However, when Spidey discovers that his greatest enemies – Doctor Octopus, Hydra and the all-new Sinister 6 – have teamed up to destroy him and S.H.I.E.L.D., he creates a special new team of Spiders, including Miles Morales, Agent Venom, Iron Spider and the mysterious new Scarlet Spider! Spider-Man and his new friends will need to wield all of their power to overcome their greatest challenge yet.
The "Marvel's Ultimate Spider-Man Vs. The Sinister 6" voice cast includes Drake Bell ("Drake & Josh") as Peter Parker/Spider-Man, Chi McBride ("Hawaii Five-0") as Nick Fury, Steven Weber ("Wings") as Norman Osborn, Greg Cipes ("Ben 10") as Danny Rand/Iron Fist, Logan Miller ("I'm in the Band") as Nova, Misty Lee ("Batman: Arkham City") as Aunt May, and recurring guest star Stan Lee ("Spider-Man") as Stan the Janitor. Matt Lanter ("Star Wars: Clone Wars"), Eric Bauza ("Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"), Scott Porter ("Friday Night Lights") and Ogie Banks ("Fatherhood") become Spidey's new team, Agent Venom, Iron Spider, Scarlet Spider, and Miles Morales, respectively. Alex Soto serves as Supervising Director while Kevin Burke and Chris “Doc” Wyatt serve as Co-Story Editors.
Alan Fine ("Marvel's The Avengers," "Iron Man," "Thor"), Dan Buckley ("Marvel’s Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H.”), Joe Quesada ("Marvel's Daredevil"), and Jeph Loeb ("Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.") will serve as executive producers on "Marvel's Ultimate Spider-Man vs. The Sinister 6", while Stan Lee ("Spider-Man"), Eric Radomski ("Spawn"), Cort Lane ("The Super Hero Squad Show") and Stephen Wacker ("Marvel's Avengers Assemble") will serve as co-executive producers.
Also check out more content at the Marvel Animation Age Ultimate Spider-Man sub-site!

Previous Discussion Threads:

Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part One (Spoilers)
Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part Two (Spoilers)
Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part Three (Spoilers)
Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part Four (Spoilers)
Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part Five (Spoilers)
Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part Six (Spoilers)
Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part Seven (Spoilers)
Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part Eight (Spoilers)
Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part Nine (Spoilers)
Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part Ten (Spoilers)
Ultimate Spider-Man (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part Eleven (Spoilers)

And you can keep up to date with the new Spider-Man cartoon by visiting this thread:
"Marvel's Spider-Man" (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part 5 (Spoilers)

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Here's another interesting tidbit from Stephen Wacker's Tumblr:

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I guess I'm always interested in why creators writers do the things they do so I hope this doesn't come off as rude. But I'm left wondering why did you have Miles Morales and his mom stay in the regular universe if the series was ending?It kinda seemed unnecessary to me. :p
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We didn’t know it was ending when we broke the story.
 

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That would explain why Wacker had continued mentioning ideas and characters for possible future seasons when responding to fans, because they were still planning on a potential renewal rather then a reboot :ack:.

But Miles just hopping over to the main dimension was always a weird story beat to me. Like, he and his mom just completely leave their lives and the world they've lived in for years to go to another dimension with a bunch of other Spider-people :confused:.

We also didn't really get to have much bonding time between him and the other Web Warriors, so that being part of his motivation for sticking around just didn't ring true to me o_O.

Not to mention he was basically abandoning his home dimension after learning there had been an upswing in crime since he had left, leaving Gwen to handle it all alone despite the fact that, unlike him, she didn't actually have any powers :eek:.

I get they wanted to keep Miles in the cast, but I just don't think they handled it very sensibly :sweat:.
 

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That would explain why Wacker had continued mentioning ideas and characters for possible future seasons when responding to fans, because they were still planning on a potential renewal rather then a reboot :ack:.

But Miles just hopping over to the main dimension was always a weird story beat to me. Like, he and his mom just completely leave their lives and the world they've lived in for years to go to another dimension with a bunch of other Spider-people :confused:.

We also didn't really get to have much bonding time between him and the other Web Warriors, so that being part of his motivation for sticking around just didn't ring true to me o_O.

Not to mention he was basically abandoning his home dimension after learning there had been an upswing in crime since he had left, leaving Gwen to handle it all alone despite the fact that, unlike him, she didn't actually have any powers :eek:.

I get they wanted to keep Miles in the cast, but I just don't think they handled it very sensibly :sweat:.
Yeah, I hope they revive the show on Netflix along with all the premature Marvel shows so they can finally use the ideas and characters for possible future seasons.https://www.change.org/p/marvel-rev...hows-on-netflix-both-live-action-and-animated
 

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Since she never made it to animation, I kind of have to treat like Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) in the JLU comic or Wonder Girl in the Teen Titans Go! comic. It's nice to get an idea of how it could have worked but it's a shame that it never happened in animation.

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Cool. It would have been nice if they kept the Ultimate Spider-Man titling.

I half expected to be surprised with an announcement for physical media when I saw an update on this thread.

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Agreed. It'd also have been nice if Ultimate Spider-Man continued after Season 4 and we saw where they could have gone in Season 5 even though the writing still would've been cheesy at times. Although, Drake Bell probably still would've been replaced with Robbie Daymond on the show after what happened with his drinking problem.
 

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I can see why they decided to postpone the chat. Though at the same time, the show and these episodes as well also featured Stan in his recurring role. Granted it was only as a janitor, but I thought he made even that bit role a memorable one.
 

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I just want to comment some trivia information about "Ultimate Spider-Man" and "Avengers Assemble". One is a data I know from day one, the other one is something I didn't realized until very recently. Let's see:

1º) "Ultimate Spider-Man": The group that were called the Spider-Slayers were actually based on a group of spider-villains from the comics, known for having links to Spider-Woman II (Julia Carpenter) and being members of her rogue's gallery. They were called "Death Web":

+ Ghost Spider: His design was based on Future Foundation Spider-Man, but he's actually based on the character known as Antro (Hashi Noto). They both have white uniforms and the ability to teleport.
+ Goliath Spider: His design can be based on Flash Thompson's look as Agent of Cosmos with Venom's symbiote, but he's actually based on the character known as Therak (Theodore Davros). They are both Spiders with enormous strength and size, only Therak looked more like "Man-Spider", while Goliath Spider was more humanoid.
+ Bone Spider: I don't know on what they thought to design this one, but it's based on the character known as Arachne (Dr Sylvie Yacqua). They both have purple suits and claws; not to mention Bone Spider has a "femenine constitution".

2º) "Avengers Assemble": The first incarnation of the Cabal in Season 1 was said to have more in common with the Masters of Evil. However, I just realized it's based on another team that Red Skull has been a member several times, Super-Axis. This team, at the same time, was one of Marvel's attempts to create copies of the Justice League. Check:

+ Iron Skull: Super-Axis was a group created to restore the Third Reich, so it was obvious that Red Skull will take part of this group.
+ Hyperion: Hyperion's role match the role of Master-Man, who (just like Hyperion) was created as a plastiche of Superman.
+ Dracula: Dracula's role is similar to Baron Blood's (a vampire nazi), and Baron Blood was created as a siniter copy of Batman.
+ Attuma: Attuma's role is just like U-Man (an atlantean ally of nazis), and both of them share elements that made them similar to Aquaman.
+ The only missing member was a female character who could have a role similar to Warrior Woman (Julia Koenig), who was a rip-off of Wonder Woman. But instead of a female character, we had the Super-Adaptoid (who was similar to Amazo) and MODOK.

Well, what do you think?