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It makes me wonder just how the sequel will turn out? Will it actually be taking place on Sonic's home planet or will we still have more adventures on Earth? I don't think it would be a wise idea to have more adventures of Sonic being on Earth in the sequel. The audience at this point is already introduced to Sonic on the big screen and it would be more impactful if they had the sequel take place mostly on Sonic's planet. I guess we'll see what the plans for the sequel are.
 
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But all in all, Tails’s appearance in the end has me really excited for a sequel. Hopefully, more of the movie will take place on Sonic’s home planet so we can see other familiar characters (everyone in the theater left before the mid-credit scene!)
Overall, a decent movie.
It got me excited too, and I hope any sequels will take place in Sonic's world as well. Can't wait to see characters like Knuckles,Amy,Sally,Rouge,Shadow, and Blaze.
Aside from Jimmy Carrey's Robotnik, the human characters in this film were just alright. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if Donut Boy joins Sonic in returning with Tails

It makes me wonder just how the sequel will turn out? Will it actually be taking place on Sonic's home planet or will we still have more adventures on Earth? I don't think it would be a wise idea to have more adventures of Sonic being on Earth in the sequel. The audience at this point is already introduced to Sonic on the big screen and it would be more impactful if they had the sequel take place mostly on Sonic's planet. I guess we'll see what the plans for the sequel are.
My guess is that we'll get 5-20 minutes on Earth before the film spends the rest of the time in Sonic's world.
 

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It got me excited too, and I hope any sequels will take place in Sonic's world as well. Can't wait to see characters like Knuckles,Amy,Sally,Rouge,Shadow, and Blaze.
Aside from Jimmy Carrey's Robotnik, the human characters in this film were just alright. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if Donut Boy joins Sonic in returning with Tails


My guess is that we'll get 5-20 minutes on Earth before the film spends the rest of the time in Sonic's world.
That seems appropriate. I think that the first half of the movie will be spent on Tails staying on Earth with Sonic while they start bonding with each other and then some event, like either Knuckles comes to Earth to battle Sonic or Dr. Robotnik comes and kidnaps Tails, will force Sonic to go back to his world to get Tails back.
 

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I really think Presidents Day weekend has boosted the stats of Sonic. Elsewhere in the world Detective Pikachu has consistently beaten Sonic in the box office. (Data from Box Office Mojo)

Opening Weekend Stats as of 23:00:00 GMT 17th Feb 2020
Domestic58,018,348 (SONIC)54,365,242 (Detective Pikachu)+6.7% Sonic
Croatia91,458127,133+39.0% Pikachu
France4,314,4125,418,922+25.6% Pikachu
Hungary210,035171,032+22.8% Sonic
Iceland61,37046,381+32.3% Sonic
Norway399,113744,499+86.5% Pikachu
Portugal234,786292,630+24.6% Pikachu
Slovenia49,676169,598+241.4% Pikachu
Australia2,603,9673,514,851+34.9% Pikachu
New Zealand332,643599,550+80.2% Pikachu
It's hard to take Iceland stats as much since it's such a small sample size as well as Slovenia however a 70% swing is interesting. Otherwise other than Hungary everyone favored Detective Pikachu.



There's a few things I'm interested in here. If Sega is just way more popular in North America over other countries and thus Sonic is more well known, If timing wise Sonic just didn't make sense for people to go out but for North America it was a 4 day weekend.

I'm Australian and looks deeper into the Australian stats, Sonic still did well. It got the same numbers as Birds of Prey and beat out other movies from last year like The Lego Movie 2.

The big thing is so far with the small sample of stats we have is that North America is completely out of the ordinary compared to the Norm and the only thing I can think of that would warp the stats is Presidents Day weekend.

I personally thought Detective Pikachu was the better movie (but I'm probably somewhat biased due to my love of Pikachu) so it did surpise me to see Sonic do better than Detective Pikachu.

Thoughts?

Edit: Fixed mathematics error
Opening WeekendSonic the Hedgehog (2020)Detective Pikachu (2019)Percentages more $USD earned
Total Opening ("Worldwide")66,315,80865,449,838+1.3% Sonic
Internationally (Without Domestic)8,297,46011,084,596+33.5% Pikachu
Thought I'd also show the worldwide total (including only the countries listed in Sonic the Hedgehog) vs the total excluding Domestic.


Edit: Fixed mathematics error
With more statistics coming it it's leaning even more towards Detective Pikachu.
CountrySonic the Hedgehog (2020)Detective Pikachu (2019)Percentages more $USD earned
Bulgaria153,61362,163+147.1% Sonic
Germany2,899,1664,051,631+39.7% Pikachu
Slovakia9,015169,598+1781.2% Pikachu
Brazil2,710,1151,554,876+74.3% Sonic
Russia2,129,9173,909,614+83.5% Pikachu
South Korea464,0331,704,608+267.3% Pikachu
Total Opening ("Worldwide")74,681,66776,902,328+2.9% Pikachu (4.2% swing)
Internationally (Without Domestic)16,663,31922,537,086+35.2% Pikachu (1.7% swing)
Brazil and Bulgaria are showing heavy favoring towards Sonic but the 2 biggest countries listed here (Germany and Russia) had strong favoring of Pikachu while other smaller countries like South Korea and Slovakia showed amazing numbers for Pikachu and pitiful numbers for Sonic making the gains in Bulgaria and Brazil barely noticeable.
More opening weekend stats coming in from big countries
CountrySonic the Hedgehog (2020)Detective Pikachu (2019)Percentages more $USD earned
Netherlands561,3521,262,049+124.8 Pikachu
United Kingdom6,175,8236,438,484+4.2% Pikachu
Mexico6,903,4334,088,235+68.86% Sonic
Total Opening ("Worldwide")88,322,27588,691,096+0.4% Pikachu (-2.5% swing)
Internationally (Without Domestic)30,303,92734,325,854+13.2% Pikachu (-22.0% swing)

This is the biggest swing towards sonic we have seen since I started updating the stats. Mexico having 68% more interest in Sonic over Pikachu is a huge factor to the numbers coming back closer together.

Interesting to note domestically Tuesday was the first day where Sonic did worse than Detective Pikachu ($5,082,338 vs $5,337,617) which is starting to prove my theory of Presidents day having a huge factor on the numbers.

Sonic might be able to beat Pikachu out Domestically for the highest grossing game movie of all time but I don't see it happening internationally.

Another huge factor is China their cinemas are currently closed and it scored $39 million in its opening weekend for detective pikachu if and when sonic comes to China the numbers will be low for sure.

We still have yet to get opening weekend stats from Poland ($1,337,907), Spain ($2,180,179), Japan ($4,112,878) and previously mentioned China ($39,879,448). Whole bunch of other countries under the $1mil mark as well.

Fascinated to see how Sonic does domestically this coming weekend and if Poland, Spain and Japan can possibly give it a chance of catching up to Pikachu in the Worldwide race.

I think overall we should look at the final stats without China's numbers (assuming they do get the movie) since it seems harsh to compare the two when the second biggest market is basically closed.
 

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Interesting (if true) side note; if the Wikipedia episode guide for Sonic X is to be believed (it links to an article in Japanese) the final season is finally airing in Japan (for the first time) from next month to coincide with the release of the movie.
 

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I saw it last night. I thought it was good, even though I never really played the games. I wouldn’t mind a sequel. I have to wonder, if they didn’t change Sonic’s design, would it still be a good movie?
 

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I saw it last night. I thought it was good, even though I never really played the games. I wouldn’t mind a sequel. I have to wonder, if they didn’t change Sonic’s design, would it still be a good movie?
I wondered about that too. Even if the movie had the same plot, I bet that a lot of people would have been put off by Sonic's original design and they wouldn't go see the movie even if the plot of the movie was good. The movie probably would have bombed if they didn't changed Sonic's design at the last second.
 
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More opening weekend stats coming in from big countries
CountrySonic the Hedgehog (2020)Detective Pikachu (2019)Percentages more $USD earned
Netherlands561,3521,262,049+124.8 Pikachu
United Kingdom6,175,8236,438,484+4.2% Pikachu
Mexico6,903,4334,088,235+68.86% Sonic
Total Opening ("Worldwide")88,322,27588,691,096+0.4% Pikachu (-2.5% swing)
Internationally (Without Domestic)30,303,92734,325,854+13.2% Pikachu (-22.0% swing)
This is the biggest swing towards sonic we have seen since I started updating the stats. Mexico having 68% more interest in Sonic over Pikachu is a huge factor to the numbers coming back closer together.


Interesting to note domestically Tuesday was the first day where Sonic did worse than Detective Pikachu ($5,082,338 vs $5,337,617) which is starting to prove my theory of Presidents day having a huge factor on the numbers.

Sonic might be able to beat Pikachu out Domestically for the highest grossing game movie of all time but I don't see it happening internationally.

Another huge factor is China their cinemas are currently closed and it scored $39 million in its opening weekend for detective pikachu if and when sonic comes to China the numbers will be low for sure.

We still have yet to get opening weekend stats from Poland ($1,337,907), Spain ($2,180,179), Japan ($4,112,878) and previously mentioned China ($39,879,448). Whole bunch of other countries under the $1mil mark as well.

Fascinated to see how Sonic does domestically this coming weekend and if Poland, Spain and Japan can possibly give it a chance of catching up to Pikachu in the Worldwide race.

I think overall we should look at the final stats without China's numbers (assuming they do get the movie) since it seems harsh to compare the two when the second biggest market is basically closed.
Country
Sonic the Hedgehog (2020)Detective Pikachu (2019)Percentages more $USD earned
Spain2,007,6702,180,179+8.5% Pikachu
Turkey353,651168,393+110.0% Sonic
Total Opening ("Worldwide")90,683,59691,039,668+0.3% Pikachu (-0.1% swing)
Internationally (Without Domestic)32,665,24836,674,436+12.2% Pikachu (-1.0% swing)

I swing towards sonic but only slightly.

Domestic, Bulgaria, Hungary, Iceland, Turkey, Brazil and Mexico are the only countries that had a better showing for sonic.

Also worth noting Detective Pikachu had a better first Tuesday and Wednesday than Sonic. I'd really love to see Sonic take the top spot but I feel like it might not happen. I think this weekend will say a lot.

DaySonic the Hedgehog (2020)Detective Pikachu (2019)Difference
Friday (Opening)$20,924,364$20,575,704$348,660 Sonic
Saturday (Day 2)$20,552,625$20,365,840$186,785 Sonic
Sunday (Day 3)$16,541,359$13,423,698$3,117,661 Sonic
Monday (Day 4)$11,983,726$3,693,215$8,290,511 Sonic
Tuesday (Day 5)$5,082,338$5,337,617$255,279 Pikachu
Wednesday (Day 6)$2,665,678$3,070,078$404,400 Pikachu
Total$77,750,090$66,466,152$11,283,938 Sonic
 

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I wondered about that too. Even if the movie had the same plot, I bet that a lot of people would have been put off by Sonic's original design and they wouldn't go see the movie even if the plot of the movie was good. The movie probably would have bombed if they didn't changed Sonic's design at the last second.
I wouldn't have gone to see it. The design and charm of sonic is what drew me to the movie and the original designed looked weird.
 

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I wouldn't have gone to see it. The design and charm of sonic is what drew me to the movie and the original designed looked weird.
I agree! I just loved how cute Sonic looked in this movie and I probably wouldn't have been that interested in the movie if he was shown in his original design.
 

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Sonic has smashed it at the box office again this weekend topping the weekend charts and also beating out Detective Pikachu after a shaky week.

The blue blur now is only $37 million away from topping Detective Pikachu for best grossing Video Game film domestically.
DaySonic the HedgehogDetective PikachuDifference
1 (Friday)$20,924,364$20,575,704+$348,660 Sonic
2 (Saturday)$20,552,625$20,365,840+$186,785 Sonic
3 (Sunday)$16,541,359$13,423,698+$3,117,661 Sonic
4 (Sonic Presidents' Day)$11,983,726$3,693,215+$8,290,511 Sonic
5$5,082,338$5,337,617+$255,279 Pikachu
6$2,665,678$3,070,078+$404,400 Pikachu
7$2,551,581$2,720,694+$169,113 Pikachu
8 (Friday)$6,359,113$6,247,867+$111,246 Sonic
9 (Saturday)$11,961,933$10,781,054+$1,180,879 Sonic
10 (Sunday)$7,871,248$8,079,238+$207,990 Pikachu
Total (10 days)$106,493,965$94,295,005+$12,198,960 Sonic
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First Weekend$58,018,348$54,365,242+$3,653,106 Sonic
Second Weekend$26,192,294$25,108,159+$1,084,135 Sonic

Next weekends stats will be very interesting since it was Memorial Day weekend in America for Detective Pikachu. That should mean that Sonic won't have as good of a weekend compared to Detective Pikachu (especially on the Monday) but we will see.

If Sonic continues to keep pulling similar numbers to Detective Pikachu we should see it claim the best grossing Video Game film (domestically) title in around 2 weeks time.
 

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Numbers are horrible for Monday. It's the worst day easily since launch and Detective Pikachu got double the grossing today compared to Sonic the Hedgehog
DaySonic the HedgehogDetective PikachuDifference
1 (Friday)$20,924,364$20,575,704+$348,660 Sonic
2 (Saturday)$20,552,625$20,365,840+$186,785 Sonic
3 (Sunday)$16,541,359$13,423,698+$3,117,661 Sonic
4 (Sonic Presidents' Day)$11,983,726$3,693,215+$8,290,511 Sonic
5$5,082,338$5,337,617+$255,279 Pikachu
6$2,665,678$3,070,078+$404,400 Pikachu
7$2,551,581$2,720,694+$169,113 Pikachu
8 (Friday)$6,359,113$6,247,867+$111,246 Sonic
9 (Saturday)$11,961,933$10,781,054+$1,180,879 Sonic
10 (Sunday)$7,871,248$8,079,238+$207,990 Pikachu
11$1,214,470$2,495,118+$1,280,648 Pikachu
Total (10 days)$107,708,435$96,790,123+$12,198,960 Sonic
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First Weekend$58,018,348$54,365,242+$3,653,106 Sonic
Second Weekend$26,192,294$25,108,159+$1,084,135 Sonic

Sonic still has the lead but a $1.2 million swing is not good. Pikachu earnt around $2 million more than it would have during a regular weekend next weekend due to memorial day weekend.

Sonic needs to make Roughly $37 million to become the highest grossing video game film.
 

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Numbers are horrible for Monday. It's the worst day easily since launch and Detective Pikachu got double the grossing today compared to Sonic the Hedgehog
DaySonic the HedgehogDetective PikachuDifference
1 (Friday)$20,924,364$20,575,704+$348,660 Sonic
2 (Saturday)$20,552,625$20,365,840+$186,785 Sonic
3 (Sunday)$16,541,359$13,423,698+$3,117,661 Sonic
4 (Sonic Presidents' Day)$11,983,726$3,693,215+$8,290,511 Sonic
5$5,082,338$5,337,617+$255,279 Pikachu
6$2,665,678$3,070,078+$404,400 Pikachu
7$2,551,581$2,720,694+$169,113 Pikachu
8 (Friday)$6,359,113$6,247,867+$111,246 Sonic
9 (Saturday)$11,961,933$10,781,054+$1,180,879 Sonic
10 (Sunday)$7,871,248$8,079,238+$207,990 Pikachu
11$1,214,470$2,495,118+$1,280,648 Pikachu
Total (10 days)$107,708,435$96,790,123+$12,198,960 Sonic
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First Weekend$58,018,348$54,365,242+$3,653,106 Sonic
Second Weekend$26,192,294$25,108,159+$1,084,135 Sonic
Sonic still has the lead but a $1.2 million swing is not good. Pikachu earnt around $2 million more than it would have during a regular weekend next weekend due to memorial day weekend.


Sonic needs to make Roughly $37 million to become the highest grossing video game film.
Wouldn't Sonic need to make at least $300 million to break even?
 

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Over the last 5 days Detective Pikachu has caught up by almost $3 million. With Pikachu's stats boosted this weekend by memorial day it's looking more and more likely that Sonic won't be able to dethrone Detective Pikachu for Best Grossing Video Game film Domestically.
DaySonic the HedgehogDetective PikachuDifference
Opening Weekend (Day 1-3)$58,018,348$54,365,242+$3,653,106 Sonic
4 (Sonic Presidents' Day)$11,983,726$3,693,215+$8,290,511 Sonic
5$5,082,338$5,337,617+$255,279 Pikachu
6$2,665,678$3,070,078+$404,400 Pikachu
7$2,551,581$2,720,694+$169,113 Pikachu
8 (Friday)$6,359,113$6,247,867+$111,246 Sonic
9 (Saturday)$11,961,933$10,781,054+$1,180,879 Sonic
10 (Sunday)$7,871,248$8,079,238+$207,990 Pikachu
11$1,214,470$2,495,118+$1,280,648 Pikachu
12$2,211,971$2,757,571+$545,600 Pikachu
13$1,211,594$1,670,035+$458,441 Pikachu
14$1,161,652$1,604,893+$443,241 Pikachu
Total (14 days)$112,293,652$102,822,622+$9,471,030 Sonic
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Second Weekend$26,192,294$25,108,159+$1,084,135 Sonic
Second Week Friday-Thursday$31,991,981$33,635,776+$1,643,795 Pikachu
Second Weekday Monday-Thursday$5,799,687$8,527,617+$2,727,930 Pikachu
Sonic needs to hope to once again beat Detective Pikachu over the 3 day weekend to try and recover the losses it will make on the Monday.
 

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What a weekend just wow. Sonic is continuing to boom. While it didn't score the number 1 spot it beat out Detective Pikachu by almost $3 million and looks like it will break even with detective Pikachu over the 4 day weekend.
DaySonic the HedgehogDetective PikachuDifference
Opening Weekend (Day 1-3)$58,018,348$54,365,242+$3,653,106 Sonic
4 (Sonic Presidents' Day)$11,983,726$3,693,215+$8,290,511 Sonic
5$5,082,338$5,337,617+$255,279 Pikachu
6$2,665,678$3,070,078+$404,400 Pikachu
7$2,551,581$2,720,694+$169,113 Pikachu
Second Weekend (Day 8-10)$26,192,294$25,108,159+$1,084,135 Sonic
11$1,214,470$2,495,118+$1,280,648 Pikachu
12$2,211,971$2,757,571+$545,600 Pikachu
13$1,211,594$1,670,035+$458,441 Pikachu
14$1,161,652$1,604,893+$443,241 Pikachu
15 (Friday)$3,489,593$3,408,313+$81,280 Sonic
16 (Saturday)$7,647,155$5,134,909+$2,512,246 Sonic
17 (Sunday)$5,124,645$4,873,037+$251,608 Sonic
Total (14 days)$128,555,045$116,238,881+$12,316,164 Sonic
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Third Weekend$16,261,393$13,416,259+$2,845,134 Sonic

Detective Pikachu made $3,831,142 on Monday due to Memorial Day long weekend. Last Monday Sonic made $1,214,470. If sonic can make $986,008 on Monday it will break even over the long weekend. The fact is that I predicted Detective Pikachu to win out these 4 days easily the fact Sonic has basically broken even or just beaten it basically should confirm it becoming the top grossing video game film (domestically) of all time.

Only thing that can stop it now is the coronavirus.
 

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What a weekend just wow. Sonic is continuing to boom. While it didn't score the number 1 spot it beat out Detective Pikachu by almost $3 million and looks like it will break even with detective Pikachu over the 4 day weekend.
DaySonic the HedgehogDetective PikachuDifference
Opening Weekend (Day 1-3)$58,018,348$54,365,242+$3,653,106 Sonic
4 (Sonic Presidents' Day)$11,983,726$3,693,215+$8,290,511 Sonic
5$5,082,338$5,337,617+$255,279 Pikachu
6$2,665,678$3,070,078+$404,400 Pikachu
7$2,551,581$2,720,694+$169,113 Pikachu
Second Weekend (Day 8-10)$26,192,294$25,108,159+$1,084,135 Sonic
11$1,214,470$2,495,118+$1,280,648 Pikachu
12$2,211,971$2,757,571+$545,600 Pikachu
13$1,211,594$1,670,035+$458,441 Pikachu
14$1,161,652$1,604,893+$443,241 Pikachu
15 (Friday)$3,489,593$3,408,313+$81,280 Sonic
16 (Saturday)$7,647,155$5,134,909+$2,512,246 Sonic
17 (Sunday)$5,124,645$4,873,037+$251,608 Sonic
Total (14 days)$128,555,045$116,238,881+$12,316,164 Sonic
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Third Weekend$16,261,393$13,416,259+$2,845,134 Sonic
Detective Pikachu made $3,831,142 on Monday due to Memorial Day long weekend. Last Monday Sonic made $1,214,470. If sonic can make $986,008 on Monday it will break even over the long weekend. The fact is that I predicted Detective Pikachu to win out these 4 days easily the fact Sonic has basically broken even or just beaten it basically should confirm it becoming the top grossing video game film (domestically) of all time.


Only thing that can stop it now is the coronavirus.
Hopefully, the Sonic the Hedgehog movie will cross over to $300 million. Of course, due to the box office success of this movie, it will get a sequel. But, it would be better if they have an even bigger budget for the second film so that way they could have most of the movie take place in Sonic's world without worrying about the movie's budget.
 
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