Pokémon: The First Movie - Mewtwo Strikes Back Talkback (Spoilers)

[Duke]

Don't mess with Mother Nature This is the official talkback thread for the first Pokémon movie "Mewtwo Strikes Back," marking the Pocket Monsters debut on Toonami.

Yes, we all know the Pokémon series doesn't belong on Toonami, and this will probably be the last time this Pokémon movie appears on the block (unless there's a Toonami channel, maybe), so please refrain from any flaming for the show being on the block. Also, please try not to turn this into an Anti-4Kids thread (No matter how tempting it may be), as they're already rampant on the Anime Forum. We know this thing is VERY different from the Japanese version, we don't need endless posts bashing 4Kids for changes. If you are curious about what was edited, here's an edit list, including video changes in the Japanese versions.

Also, if you missed them in theaters or on Cartoon Network's Fridays a few months ago, try and check them out now. There are some really cool moments in the films, and Pikachu gets slapped silly in this one.

 

[Sampo]

Duke, that link you posted is broken or something I get a cannot find server error message.

 

[Duke]

Dogasu's site seems to be down at the moment, for some reason. And just when he left for Japan too.

 

[Lord Dalek]

The first five minutes of this movie are great, then it sucks.

 

[Duke]

Meh, decent intro. I'm surprised they didn't show any battle footage though...

Wait, WHAT!? WTF! They're showing Pikachu's Vacation!? THIS doesn't belong on Toonami! It didn't play on Fridays, so why here!?

 

[MattThomasM2B]

Also, please try not to turn this into an Anti-4Kids thread (No matter how tempting it may be), as they're already rampant on the Anime Forum. We know this thing is VERY different from the Japanese version, we don't need endless posts bashing 4Kids for changes. If you are curious about what was edited, here's an edit list, including video changes in the Japanese versions.

Well damn, take all the fun out of it why don't you?

Well...............hmmmmmmmmm.........

The Toonami custom intro made the movie look badass. I didn't know that they would show Pikachu's Vacation..........I've seen all this before so...................uh..........................*Changes the channel.*

 

[SNS]

Wait, WHAT!? WTF! They're showing Pikachu's Vacation!? THIS doesn't belong on Toonami! It didn't play on Fridays, so why here!?

I'm guessing it's to fit the two hours.

 

[Beat]

Oh, the pain...

Thankfully, this seems like the last time Pokemon will have sullied Toonami.

 

[Vyse]

Meh, decent intro. I'm surprised they didn't show any battle footage though...

Wait, WHAT!? WTF! They're showing Pikachu's Vacation!? THIS doesn't belong on Toonami! It didn't play on Fridays, so why here!?

It's a rare opportunity. Record it now for posterity! Because you know it will not air again!
Hey, maybe we can get the other animated short that came with Pokemon 2000 (not shown on Fridays, as well)?

 

[Duke]

It's a rare opportunity. Record it now for posterity! Because you know it will not air again!
Hey, maybe we can get the other animated short that came with Pokemon 2000 (not shown on Fridays, as well)?

I have all 5 movies on DVD.

If they were going to show a movie, they shoulda showed Movie 3, as that is argueably the best of the first 3 Poké-Movies.

 

[Obi]

Wait, WHAT!? WTF! They're showing Pikachu's Vacation!? THIS doesn't belong on Toonami! It didn't play on Fridays, so why here!?

So they don't have to air PPG later.

 

[Yash]

Duke, the Pikachu shorts were edited out in every Friday airing, I guess for eyecatch time. In every following airing they were restored, since Fridays use more time up for eyecatches.

 

[Umino]

Ah! Can someone get me a screen of Chansey and Jigglypuff in a hotair ballon? ^^

Did anyone else notice that Omastar in the pool? Plothole

 

[William C. Maune]

I wonder why the heck they are showing the Pikachu thing when it wasn't on Fridays? Powerpuff Girls fits on Toonami way better than this. Just seeing the 4Kids logo on Toonami made me jump a little, but then this Pikachu thing...

 

[Duke]

Duke, the Pikachu shorts were edited out in every Friday airing, I guess for eyecatch time. In every following airing they were restored, since Fridays use more time up for eyecatches.

They coulda played an episode of GT to please FUNimation.

I will admit, the water race is one of my favorite moments, because Squirtle rocks. (I miss Squirtle...) Also, the Pikachu/Raichu race is pretty funny. I just Pidgeotto got a real role. At least it actually showed up unlike the main feature...

For those of you who have no idea why I said that, and to waste space, Pidgeotto is THE most screwed over Pokémon in the series EVER. It got only 1 spotlight episode (Even Primeape, which appeared for only 5 episodes, had more), it got beaten in every Gym Battle except the final one (the battle against Misty was undecided, but it probably would've been beaten), it didn't participate in ANY Pokémon League battles, and whenever it appeared (especially after Ash got Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle), all it did was punch Team Rocket's balloon or blow smoke away. Poor Pidgeotto...

I should make a Pidgeotto shrine.

EDIT: So Mewtwo, Charizard, Blastoise, Venusaur, and Rhyhorn are all cute? Or is TOM talking about Psyduck?

Y'know, now that I think about it, I'm shocked Toonami didn't use the line "We dreamed of creating the strongest Pokémon...and we succeeded" in any of its promos.

Also, for those wondering about the sound, it was intentional. It was truly made for a surround system. Mewtwo was supposed to be heard on all channels when it was saying something aloud using its psychic powers, and only be heard in the front channels when it was thinking to itself.

And this is probably a record on Pokémon for human deaths. First all the scientists at the beginning, and now the guy with the Fearow. If only they'd played the Uncut Mewtwo's Origin instead of Pikachu's Vacation.

 

[Duke]

You know, my roommate hated the English ending songs, so he turned on the CD I had in the DVD Player while playing Colloseum, and it ended up on "Watshi Rashiku," the ending for Nadesico, and you know what? That song was a perfect ending song!

 

[William C. Maune]

Did they show a promo for next week's movie? I didn't catch one, but I didn't see the whole thing.

 

[Duke]

Did they show a promo for next week's movie? I didn't catch one, but I didn't see the whole thing.

I didn't see one. The next one is Pokémon 2000, right?

 

[MattThomasM2B]

You know, my roommate hated the English ending songs, so he turned on the CD I had in the DVD Player while playing Colloseum, and it ended up on "Watshi Rashiku," the ending for Nadesico, and you know what? That song was a perfect ending song!

No it's not. Watshi Rashiku is more of a mellow, relaxing beat. That song does not cary a tone that says, "You've just seen an epic movie," like........

Wait for it..........

...................

The original japanese ending music, Kaze to Issho ni. (I think that's the name).

But I must say that I'm embarassed to admit that the American montage of songs wasn't that bad.

 

[Yash]

I stopped watching after the first part.

Of the real movie. Y'know, when Mewtwo goes beserk.

Everything else... uh, sucked.