I really found The Flash's comment about 'no casulties' to be really unrealistic. In "Flashpoint", the evacuated Cadmus was bad enough, but you could atleast assume there were civilian causlties. But this just makes it all the more unrealistic, which, for me, and i can only speak for myself, seriously detracts from an episode's enjoyablity. it just bothers me.Grimlock said:I find it a cop out. My issue is, we the viewers could see the damage the gun did, we obviously would have assumed there would have been deaths. If the script never even mentioned anything about if anyone died or not, then we could have assumed people did die, and CN would have been happy because it's never stated that people died.
The damage to the city shown in "Flashpoint" would make civilian casulties almost impossible. And, honestly, i find the suggestion a little insulting. I know it's the freaking censors fault, but still, it doesnt make it any less easy to swallow. I think the suggestion that no one died just desensatizes people to that kind of violence, and honestly, i hate to draw comparisons to 9-11, BUT, when i watched Flashpoint, that's what it kind of reminded me of. And to suggest that that kind of violence, ESPECIALLY in the world we live in today, would result in everyone being peachy keen and no deaths, is SO irresponsible, imo. I mean, give me a break, its so unrealistic. When is this country going to stop being so backwards when it comes to these kinds of things. If the youth of Japan can survive things like Evangelion, Kenshin, and every other appocolyptic, uber death related stories, then you telling me the youth of America cant handle this? Its so frustrating. And it desensotizes, like i said. To show a realistic aftermath of such destruction, intwined in a compelling and emotional story, could actually do kids GOOD, make them more resopnsible and sensitive, but rather it just trivializes that kind of violence, and desensotizes kids to it. And it just makes those great destruction scenes in Flashpoint seem wasted. AND since our country has experienced that kind of violence in a major city recently, its makes it all the more unrealistic to say no one died, and still expect us to take it seriously. Man, it really bugs me....
Anyway, ALOT of things bugged me about this episode, and while that could all change depending on where the plot goes and what ground is covered in the next 2 epsidoes, I still found the turn of events in this episode to be some-what of a cop-out.
First, I found the whole Cadmus being turned into victims of Lex/Brainiac's maninpulation to be a cop-out. All of a sudden this evil force that's been the main baddies for the whole series, are being turned into innocent victims??? I mean, what about Iling firing that nuke at that island? What about Hamilton and all the human experiments with the Ultimen and such? What about Tala, what about all that? Now we're supose to just be like, oh, they're not so bad after all. They work for the 'real' government, and it's only Luthor who is bad. I was alittle surprised at that turn of events.
I really hope it's revealed later that Waller was the only one in Cadmus who was left in the dark, or who wasnt somehow either being controlled by or working for/with Brainiac/Luthor. As strange as it was to see Waller team up w/ the League all of a sudden, it would make more sense than the suggestion that all of Cadmus all along has been just pawns in Luthors plan. It just seems like a cop-out, and almost like the creative team was doing damage control, as to not suggest that, gasp, the government might at some level be up to no good or be involved in shaddy dealings. I personally would like to see it revealed in the next episode that the other high ranking Cadmus officials are actually either in on Lex's plot, or had been being controlled all along, and were actually manipulating Waller.
Next, while i liked the Supergirl/Galetea fight a lot, i found most of the fight on the watchtower to be a little boring and repetitive after a while. I mean, why not have some of the heros speak? plan? Stratagize? work together? after a while it just turned into a generic, filler slap-fight.
The founding members turning themselves in also seemed strange, but i guess it was reasonable.
Last, I found it REALLY weird that the League didnt even suspect Cadmus was the ones who took control of the laser canon, in order to make the public turn on the league. It would make total sense, ESPECIALLY since the facility was evacuated. I mean, that could be a reason to evacuate, now couldnt it? Evacuate to save your own skin, than stage an attack by the League in order to damage their reputation. I'm really surprised the League didnt even suspect Cadmus, especially Batman. But oh well...
Overall, i think this was a good episode, and i definately CAN FREAKIN WAIT till next week's, BUT i really hope we get more explaination on all the Cadmus stuff. For example, it's implied in QA that there was some grand greater sceme in store, something major. but it implied it was Cadmus's plot, not brainiacs'. Like, i really hope that all the suggestion and all the build up about Cadmus isnt just explained by, oh, it was Brainiac.
I also hope that Hamilton and the other Cadmus officials return. Sure, Waller always seemed SLIGHTLY reasonable, but i find it hard to believe that Iling and Hamilton would all of a sudden team up w/ the League just because they learn Luthor had an alterior motive. Hamilton obviously hates the League, and Iling is just plain evil (after what he does in DS), so now for the all to just kiss and make up, eh, i'm not buying it. Like, i can buy Waller doing it, but only if shes the only good guy in the pit of vipers, you know. She could have been being played by her co-horts, you know? I guess we'll find out.
Now, the good things about the episode, and there was lots:
Batman. He's perfect, every time. His reaction to Superman's plan was great, and the Part-timer line, ah, so they decided to explain it. And it was great. Bruce found a way to get special treatment, as a so-called 'part-timer', where he has more wiggle room that the other 6. Yup, thats Batman. He's the man.
Brainiac. That last scene was OFF THE CHAIN!!! oh my god. First, i hope that really was Lex and not some robot copy. It would make it so much more powerfull, and given all the fantastic things that happen in JL/JLU, it wouldnt necessarily mean the end of Lex as we know it.
Here is what immediately started to think when the episode was over, and really hope i'm right about some of this. I think what Brainiac is doing is setting into motion the destruction of earth, because he's gained all earth's knowledge at this time. That's what he does. Maybe he couldnt destroy earth by himself, so he's ushering in the end of the world buy pitting the League agains the government (and i'm hoping all the world's governments. Like others have mentioned, i hope we see an appearence by the "world essembly" soon, not just the US government). And i'm also hoping that Brainiac was working with Cadmus for a reason: Like, i hope Brainiac wasnt just after Amazo's blueprints (although thats a spicy meatball), but also after MAGIC, which is why he was working with Tala (Magic could be considered part of a world's knowledge and technology), itd be cool if he was after the power of earth's Gods, ie, the Anihlator. If Brainiac truely gained all of earth's knowledge, which is why he's trying to destroy it, then wouldnt it make sense (and be sooo cool), if he got a hold of litterly EVERYTHING. For example, the Chronos technology. All of earth's knowledge would include all the magic we've seen on JL/JLU up to this point, all the hero AND villian technology, all of Cadmus's technology, knowledge and power of the GODS, everything. And now he's trying to destroy the world. I really really really hope that's the case, and that he's evolved into a totally all-powerfull, god-like being, that is now ushering in an apokolipps to fullfill his original purpose: to gain a planet's knowledge and then destroy it.
And i hope the form Brainiac takes is a new, more extreme form, not the old Brainiac body, which has been done to death at this point. I hope its a new and improved, completely evolved beyond the League's wildist imagination, Brainiac. With all that technology at his command (ie, Amazo tech, Chronos tech, Magic, God's power, etc), then if Amazo does return in the next ep (i'm hoping he does, and betting he does in one of the next 2 eps), then even Amazo would be no match for him.
Man, there are so many possiblities. I think the turn of events involving Cadmus in this ep could either be a big cop-out, or a serioulsy bad-ass story, depending on where it goes next week. So i'm trying to not feel TOO much like it's a cop-out untill i see where the story goes.
What i did find to be a total cop-out was the no-causlties thing. It just doesnt make sense. Like, if Luthor/Brainiac REALLY wanted the JLU and Cadmus to fight, wouldnt he fire at a facility that wasnt abandoned? Youre telling me the League had knowledge of that facilities evacuation but Brainiac, who was so closely tied to Cadmus through Luthor, didnt know? It makes NO SENSE. To spark a war, he'd WANT to kill people at Cadmus, AND civilians. Dont tell me Brainiac OR Luthor has a conscience. So again, i know it's a censor's thing (yet another reason to be pissed at 'the man'), but it doesnt make the impact on the believablity of the story any less, AND if the writers know they'd have to do that kind of crap, then couldnt they find a way to alter the story so they didnt have to include that? I'd rather the story be altered inorder to leave out such un-realistic stuff, but i guess it's easy for me to say. This is a great story, but it's believablity is really hurt by all that. I guess i'm just one of those people that really get bugged by stuff like that, and those things really get in the way of my enjoying the overall impact of the episode. I supose IF there was some even more sinister reason Brainiac didnt want to kill anyone in that blast, that it could be more believable, but that seems unlikely. I just wish the writers had thought of a more believable or clever way to deal w/ these censor's issues, than just these completely irrational, illogical, and just plain jarring scenes, in an otherwise really well written story. AND i want to restate that i think its more damaging to send the message to kids that that kind of devestation would result in no deaths. And, it wouldnt have been the JLU's fault, as J'onn kept pointing out, and was right.
Last thing, and my rant will stop. If i'm right in my speculation and Brainiac is trying to usher in the appololipps because he's finally, after all these years, has aquired ALL of earth's knowledge and technology, and i mean ALL of it, then to not include the Joker, i'm sorry, its just SOOOO freakin cruel. I know it cant be helped, but it still stings like hell, ESPECAILLY when Brainiac should know that the best way to fight Batman would be with the Joker . peace.
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