Justice League Unlimited - New Episodes Talkback (UK Airings), Part III (Spoilers)

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Hey folks,

It's time for part 3 of the UK talkbacks! Please talk about the episodes in this thread, and use spoilers tags when discusssing something that hasn't aired in the UK in all other threads please! Now, back to the discussion!

It's called the Secret Society - I think it's to give it some degree of seriousness - much the same way Amazo wasn't referenced by name, but rather as 'Professor Ivo's Android'.
 

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Cool thanks b.t.


But i'm not saying to call it the "Legion Of Doom", but just subtly say the word that this is a "legion" of supervillains instead of using "organization" of supervillains. It could be just a passing word to describe it but not saying that it's the actual name of their group.

And I know "Legion of Doom" is a corny name but "Legion" on the other hand is a bad a** name for an organization to battle JLU.
 

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Yeah some people (like myself) call it the legion sometimes but they are actually a bigger version of the Secret Society. Which is fine with me.
 

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I don't see the harm in simply calling it Grodd's "Legion." Less cheesy than "Legion of Doom," and a much cooler sounding name than the "Injustice Gang" from season 1.

Nothing beats the Inequity Collective though. :p
 

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b.t. said:
dc specifically requested that we not ever use the term "legion of doom" in an episode to describe the super-sized baddie orginization, as they felt it sounded too corny/old school, and instantly conjures up memories of SUPER-FRIENDS....i don't think alex ross and co. are allowed to use it either in their current JUSTICE comic, though "updated hardcore legion of doom" is clearly alex's agenda........

y'know, i can't say that i disagree with their logic completely, it IS a prettty corny name....personally, i felt that the audience would have accepted it without tarnishing our "hip and modern" street cred, but didn't feel it was a battle worth fighting....at least we got to keep the stylin' darth vader-head hq:)....

Well *I* call it the Legion of Doom. And if the fine folks at Embargos 'R Us don't like it, they can kiss my shiny metal... wait, too much Futurama. :)

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b.t. said:
dc specifically requested that we not ever use the term "legion of doom" in an episode to describe the super-sized baddie orginization, as they felt it sounded too corny/old school, and instantly conjures up memories of SUPER-FRIENDS....i don't think alex ross and co. are allowed to use it either in their current JUSTICE comic, though "updated hardcore legion of doom" is clearly alex's agenda........

y'know, i can't say that i disagree with their logic completely, it IS a prettty corny name....personally, i felt that the audience would have accepted it without tarnishing our "hip and modern" street cred, but didn't feel it was a battle worth fighting....at least we got to keep the stylin' darth vader-head hq:)....

What does DC have against Super Friends. Yeah, it's corny but it's part of their history so it might as well be embraced. Besides I want to see the rest of the series on DVD.

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mr.happy said:
Update: Toonami received "Destroyer" today, and it will air tomorrow, Saturday, 18 February at 11:30 and 18:00.

Booya!!!!!!!

Thanks for the heads up
 

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Mister Intensity said:
What does DC have against Super Friends. Yeah, it's corny but it's part of their history so it might as well be embraced. Besides I want to see the rest of the series on DVD.

I think you guys are reading way too much into this. Legions Of Doom is just a name, it's a naff name and best left with the corniness of Super Friends. Contextually within the show, Legions Of Doom sounds rather icky within the world of JLU. To me it doesn't sit right.

I don't think DC has anything against Super Friends. It's just an outdated concept to them. What worked in Super Friends, doesn't serve this current incarnation of DC comic characters. They'd rather not have the main enemy of this season represented by a silly name last used in TV by a show that by todays standards, is rather silly.

That's how it seems to me. I'm sure their would have been grumbles from fans at how awkward "Legions Of Doom" sounded if Grodd had titled his group as such. I'm sure there would have been mutters of how JLU is slowly descending into the cheesiness of Super Friends... and it's clearly losing it's way this season.. Perhaps that's another reason DC didn't want such an association!
 

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SJJ said:
I'm sure there would have been mutters of how JLU is slowly descending into the cheesiness of Super Friends... and it's clearly losing it's way this season.. Perhaps that's another reason DC didn't want such an association!
There already were such mutterings, at the beginning of the season (albeit I think they were unfounded; wait until they see the end of the season).

Anyway, I think it's much better that the Legion of Doom is alluded to in JLU-- through things like the shape of the headquarters building, or the image of a large group of villains seated around a table, or even the epsiode title to start the season-- rather than having the villains actually call themselves the Legion of Doom. Those who are in the know will catch the allusions and they won't bother anyone else.
 

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mr.happy said:
Update: Toonami received "Destroyer" today, and it will air tomorrow, Saturday, 18 February at 11:30 and 18:00.

Thanks for the heads up Mr Happy! I can't wait to tune in tomorrow - I already have my alarm set (I usually sleep in on Saturdays!) - it's cool that it will be a double-bill with "Epilogue"!
 

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Douglas Fir said:
Thanks for the heads up Mr Happy! I can't wait to tune in tomorrow - I already have my alarm set (I usually sleep in on Saturdays!) - it's cool that it will be a double-bill with "Epilogue"!


Got to watch "Epilogue" also. Great episode
 

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SJJ said:
I think you guys are reading way too much into this. Legions Of Doom is just a name, it's a naff name and best left with the corniness of Super Friends. Contextually within the show, Legions Of Doom sounds rather icky within the world of JLU. To me it doesn't sit right.

I don't think DC has anything against Super Friends. It's just an outdated concept to them. What worked in Super Friends, doesn't serve this current incarnation of DC comic characters. They'd rather not have the main enemy of this season represented by a silly name last used in TV by a show that by todays standards, is rather silly.

That's how it seems to me. I'm sure their would have been grumbles from fans at how awkward "Legions Of Doom" sounded if Grodd had titled his group as such. I'm sure there would have been mutters of how JLU is slowly descending into the cheesiness of Super Friends... and it's clearly losing it's way this season.. Perhaps that's another reason DC didn't want such an association!


Makes good sense. I prefer Legion of Doom to Secret Society (Societies are not fearsome). All the villain group names are corny though. Legion of Doom is not more or less lame than Injustice League or Secret Society, but I'm guessing it's primarily the Superfriends association DC is burying. If the Superfriends fought the Injustice League, we'd probably be having the discussion of why they went with the Legion of Doom name instead of that.
 

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Teo said:
Makes good sense. I prefer Legion of Doom to Secret Society (Societies are not fearsome). All the villain group names are corny though. Legion of Doom is not more or less lame than Injustice League or Secret Society, but I'm guessing it's primarily the Superfriends association DC is burying. If the Superfriends fought the Injustice League, we'd probably be having the discussion of why they went with the Legion of Doom name instead of that.

I think the Injustice League was slightly silly, but anyone who was opposed to the Justice League - your enemy - may coin the phrase, just because you are opposing. I don't think it compares with "Legions Of Doom", which quite frankly, means nothing. The group are hardly a "legion" and certainly, they aren't interested in spelling "doom" for everyone (who would they steal from then). Secret Society, like Injustice League, isn't so weird. It's a secret group, groups do tend to name themselves for the sake of conformity.

Yes, it's stretching it, but we are talking about worlds with "Batman" and "Aquaman" and "Dr Fate".. however, for me, Legions of Doom verges on the non sensical!

That said, I do agree that the connection between LoD and Super Friends is what made this a hot potato, with the old image and memory of the old cartoon feared to overshadow the DC characters in this revised and currently credible show.
 

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fwiw, all of us here at wba refer to them as the legion of doom or "the l.o.d. guys" for verbal shorthand, when we're breaking stories or whatever, and even use the term in the scripts (in scene desriptions, etc) for simplicity's sake, just never in spoken dialogue....
 

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b.t. said:
fwiw, all of us here at wba refer to them as the legion of doom or "the l.o.d. guys" for verbal shorthand, when we're breaking stories or whatever, and even use the term in the scripts (in scene desriptions, etc) for simplicity's sake, just never in spoken dialogue....

Good to know, I almost thought the head honchos would 'persuade' you to call them the Secret Society Unlimited on the show.
 

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*whines*

But if they're not the "Legion of Doom" how can we call the members "Doomies?"

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I'm the only one who does that, aren't I? *sigh*

MM, who can't believe the fandom as she knows it will end in a few hours:crying:
 

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Well, maybe its not ending yet. Any chance of a few DTV movies? b/c ill buy those in a heartbeat, even though im still saving up to buy all the batman season box sets (still broke after buying smallville)
 

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DeathscytheVII said:
Well, maybe its not ending yet. Any chance of a few DTV movies? b/c ill buy those in a heartbeat, even though im still saving up to buy all the batman season box sets (still broke after buying smallville)

smallville....lol..im sorry you wasted your money.
 

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b.t. said:
fwiw, all of us here at wba refer to them as the legion of doom or "the l.o.d. guys" for verbal shorthand, when we're breaking stories or whatever, and even use the term in the scripts (in scene desriptions, etc) for simplicity's sake, just never in spoken dialogue....

Good to know! And as far as I'm concerned, Riddler and a few other Bat-villains are there too, they're just off-panel. Unfortunately the villains are Nostromo, Sewer King, Wormwood, Red Claw and one of Dr. Dorian's escaped lab rats. Stupid third-rate imagination....

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