Kudos to Ivy for taking the high road on that one. Most TV characters would have used that twist as an excuse to milk easy drama out of it. I can barely think of anyone on any other show who's done the right thing in such a situation.
Mark Hamill gives a better Joker performance than Alan Tudyk does. But I think Tudyk's Joker is far more interesting than the DCAU one.
Harley Quinn "The Horse And The Sparrow"
Okay, you can say a LOT of bad things about this show, but I believe it has hands-down the most interesting version of the Joker in ANY Batman continuity. Literally out of all of them. The shocking thing about the Joker is that his plans as Mayor are not just beneficial to Gotham. He actually believes in going after the 1 percenters and making the tax code fair. And it's not actually a put-on in hindsight with the show pulling the rug out from under us in the finale. Joker says people can be two things at once and actually means it.
Mark Hamill gives a better Joker performance than Alan Tudyk does. But I think Tudyk's Joker is far more interesting than the DCAU one.
Him knowing it's Lex behind the death warrant and being utterly pissed off because it's such a stupid, tiny small tax percentage for him, is interesting as hell. I'm sorry, it just is. The idea fascinates me.
How great is it that Joker has no idea Bruce Wayne is Batman, but has him arrested for tax fraud, no doubt flagged for his secret Batlife tech and vehicles? And Bruce can't exactly explain those discrepancies, can he? Messy as hell. Just the way I like it.
I am not on-board Harley deciding to be a hero yet. Because it's what I want. And I don't trust myself for wanting that. I don't believe I want that for the right reasons. I want that because heroes are easier protagonists for me to root for. And maybe it's not in this show's best interest to make that easy for me. I'm glad she's joining the Bat-Family, and think it's probably a big mistake at the same time.
Her scenes of therapy with Bruce were great. I think she actually cares about him. It's not just because of patient doctor privilege that holds her tongue. She cares about young Bruce Wayne in a way she never did Batman. It's not Batman's secret she's protecting. It's Bruce's.
If you gave me the fates of both Young Justice and this show, and said I could only keep one, this is the one I would have chosen. I'm not actually surprised things worked out the way they did there. *****.
That's one thing I was waiting for Joker to acknowledge since he turned back but he hasn't. I'm wondering if he remembers everything or some things got lost during the 2 transformations.Actually Joker knows Bruce is Batman when Scarecrow unmasked him in season 1.
The thing is Joker is usually presented as a Michael Myers unknowable force of evil and choas, more a force of nature than a character. This is more of humanized Joker. I like the pure evil Joker, but this is nice change of pace.
I had assumed that was part of his amnesia. Frankly his coincidentally going after Bruce because he believes he violated the law is a more interesting story point than railroading Bruce for something he knows he didn't do because he's Batman.That's one thing I was waiting for Joker to acknowledge since he turned back but he hasn't. I'm wondering if he remembers everything or some things got lost during the 2 transformations.
To be honest part of me assumed he even went after Bruce to begin with because he knows he might have cut a few business corners for Batman purposes.I had assumed that was part of his amnesia. Frankly his coincidentally going after Bruce because he believes he violated the law is a more interesting story point than railroading Bruce for something he knows he didn't do because he's Batman.
Yes, credited as the editor.and I think I saw Jonathan Lord's name in the credits?
Please don't. This is the kind of unanswered question that should be left up to the fans to debate until Season 4 hits (when they obviously will answer it). I think if you asked, Schumacker would tell you, just because creators are more interactive with the fans. But wondering what the actual deal is for a year is the selling point of it not being clear in the finale itself.I'm gonna tweet Schumacker on this Joker topic and see if we get anything definitive.
I mean, personally I'd like to know, but to each their own .Please don't. This is the kind of unanswered question that should be left up to the fans to debate until Season 4 hits (when they obviously will answer it). I think if you asked, Schumacker would tell you, just because creators are more interactive with the fans. But wondering what the actual deal is for a year is the selling point of it not being clear in the finale itself.
Spoiler quotes, please then.I mean, personally I'd like to know, but to each their own .
But the worst part of the season was the way they portrayed Batman/Bruce Wayne, essentially, a spineless wimp who completely fell to pieces when Catwoman rejected him. Batman is widely known as one of the most strong-willed members of the Justice League (that's one of the reasons he can actually hang with them); he would have never taken rejection that badly.