General International TV Channels Thread

[SpongeBobFan2004]

It's technically "illegal" for BBC One and Two to broadcast outside of the UK and maybe the Benelux, Switzerland and Monaco.

And also however, BBC ONE and TWO broadcasts via satellite through ASTRA. I actually think that the same happened with RTL Germany (originally RTL PLUS) when they started airing via satellite through ASTRA until ARD and ZDF ended its domination of terrestrial broadcasts in Germany.


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[AdrenalineRush1996]

BUT THE OLYMPIC GAMES TOKYO 2020 MAY BE COMING 1 MORE YEAR BEFORE THE OLYMPIC WINTER GAMES (Beijing 2022) BEGIN. AND ALSO BBC ONE AND BBC TWO MAY LAUNCH A EUROPEAN FEED TO AVOID COPYRIGHT ISSUES WITH LICENSED CONTENT.

I don't think the BBC will ever launch European versions of BBC One and BBC Two when they already have BBC Entertainment.

 

[Red Arrow]

Having satellite tv also costs money.

I can only watch BBC One, BBC Two and BBC News. BBC First and BBC Entertainment are pay TV here. BBC Four and Cbeebies closed down years ago in Belgium.

I don't think many Belgians still watch BBC. I don't know anyone who does. It was undoubtedly popular until the 80s, when Flanders only had public broadcasters. It was probably even popular until 1995, but then VT4 and Kanaal 2 launched, so Flanders suddenly had 8 channels in Dutch.

 

[RegularCapital]

BBC One and BBC Two are available in the Benelux because historically it has been a Southeast England transmission overspill area.

As the overspill issue was unavoidable, the BBC saw it as an opportunity. Belgian and Dutch cable operators paid a distribution fee to the BBC and at one time it was worth it because of English being a widely spoken language.

Switzerland has a law where it's fair game to distribute any Free To Air channel that can be received within the country's borders.

Anyone with a large enough dish (size depending where they are in Europe) pointing at Astra 2 can get BBC's channels FTA, a large dish is required as the footprint beam mostly only covers the British Isles, a minidish in only required in Britain, but if for example you wish to get BBC in Spain, expect to use a 1.5m diameter dish.

It's not lawful distribution, but the BBC can't do anything about it, because there's nothing they can really do as it's individuals with dishes and not just one cable distributor they can just easily target. Monaco is probably such a minor case and for the above reason, it's probably not worth it.

 

[SpaceCowboy]

BBC One and BBC Two are available in the Benelux because historically it has been a Southeast England transmission overspill area.

I recall in the analog days, Britain and continental Europe broadcasted on different frequencies and people had to have their sets modified to receive the others' signals. More here: PAL - Wikipedia .

Has this changed since the digital TV transition?

 

[SpongeBobFan2004]

I recall in the analog days, Britain and continental Europe broadcasted on different frequencies and people had to have their sets modified to receive the others' signals. More here: PAL - Wikipedia .

Has this changed since the digital TV transition?

Idk but in the U.K. you still get PAL televisions but the digital signals are DVB-T. Similar in Colombia when you get a NTSC tv but the digital signals are also DVB-T.


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[Red Arrow]

I recall in the analog days, Britain and continental Europe broadcasted on different frequencies and people had to have their sets modified to receive the others' signals. More here: PAL - Wikipedia .

Has this changed since the digital TV transition?

Are you talking about satellite tv?
For the last 20 years at least, you can watch BBC1 and BBC2 on Belgian cable TV the same way you can watch any other channel.

 

[RegularCapital]

I recall in the analog days, Britain and continental Europe broadcasted on different frequencies and people had to have their sets modified to receive the others' signals. More here: PAL - Wikipedia .

Has this changed since the digital TV transition?

Most later analogue TV sets were manufactured for the European market as a whole, with all variations of PAL, UK and Ireland used PAL-I, most of Europe used B/G. The major exceptions were France and Russia that used SECAM. Cable TV is the preferred choice of reception in the Benelux region, so only the cable distributor would only need to have PAL-I equipment to pick up the BBC channels. From 1998, cable distributors could opt for the DVB-T or DVB-S options. Today, PAL only refers to the resolution and frame rate, DVB is the successor to PAL and incorporates its characteristics.

 

[J10]

Viasat Channels has changed their logos. Unlike Viasport and Viasat Film, Viasat Factual Channels like Viasat Nature, Viasat History, and Viasat Explore will not be changed, and will stay the same.

They also added Videoguard for Canal Digital Channels. Allente will use capacity for Thor Satellites via 0.8 W. In the next months, they’ll demand Viasat Customers to switch their dishes to another new orbital satellite.
Sportovní a filmové kanály Viasatu s novými názvy

 

[JedSwag]

As of June 1, ABS-CBN TV Plus brought back Asianovela Channel and Jeepney TV on FTA airings temporarily replacing S+A and ABS-CBN respectively.

A problem about the TV5 Kids block on TV5 Philippines is they aired an Rated SPG airing of an horror comedy show.

 

[Checkerboard]

All Viacom channels, even in Europe, aired messages related to the events in the US.

Also, MTV Dance became Club MTV in Europe.

 

[Red Arrow]

All Viacom channels, even in Europe, aired messages related to the events in the US.

What did they say?

 

[Perla Magica]

Also, MTV Dance became Club MTV in Europe.

The playlist stays the same.

 

[RandomMe]

The only change is the name and the graphics.

 

[Red Arrow]

I don't think I have said this already. From December 1994 until 1997, before the launch of Ketnet, the Flemish public broadcaster BRTN had a children's block (mostly on Wednesdays) called Van-a1 van-a2 with The Mask, Dumb and Dumber, The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest etc. This block had a weekly contest. You had to send the answer by mail and then you could win a toy.

In 2009, one of the answers arrived by mail, and the BRTN (now called VRT) decided to give the boy (now an adult) a prize (a bunch of VRT books and DVDs)

The Belgian postal service is THAT bad

 

[Checkerboard]

What did they say?

MTV, MTV Europe and the thematic music channels (MTV Rocks, Club MTV, etc.) all aired an almost 9 minute video with a black background, countdown, animated text "I can't breathe" in various languages (depending on feed) and hashtags and links. Comedy Central feeds aired it too. VH1 and VH1 Classic in Europe, as well as for eg. MTV Rocks, all had a hashtag block dedicated to related music. Nick channels in the US rolled a message over orange background for the same duration. Paramount and BET in the US had a tribute as well.

MTV, VH1, BET Ran 8:46 of Breathing Sounds to Honor George Floyd

Pretty incredible.

On another note, JOJ will rebrand.
TV JOJ od soboty s novou grafikou

 

[RandomMe]

I wonder what happened to the EMEA feeds of Nickelodeon.

Seeing Viacom do that on a global scale is pretty impressive.

 

[AdrenalineRush1996]

Argentine TV network América TV changed their logo on Monday and here's the first video from their official YouTube channel that uses the new logo.

 

[Francisque]

I think Trace really does not know what to do with its channels:
Trace Urban is now a "has it all" music channel, but he branding is very odd.. Trace Urban, should be .. Urban music?
Personally, I think they should have: Trace Stars (main channel; acting as a "Starz"), Trace Urban (Urban and maybe Latina), Trace Vault

I also apparently have been informed these channels are run a bit oddly, cutting credits and so on.. not sure Sony would've been better at running these channels, but the current set up is a mess

I don't think the Trace branding is to blame, the emphasis on "urban" music though, probably yes

I don't think the BBC will ever launch European versions of BBC One and BBC Two when they already have BBC Entertainment.

Why should they? BBC One and Two are clearly intended for the UK, as the name suggests

Also, BBC Worldwide sometimes prefers to sell rights to individual companies, especially in bigger markets

The only change is the name and the graphics.

Apparently they also had some issues with Cyrillic text, with the fact that the channel is sometimes catered for the biggest audience around in the area: Russia and surrounding areas, including Russian music videos popping up

BBC Four is to become an archive channel, but will still air some arts and culture programmes. Most of BBC Four's programming will move to BBC Two, with BBC Two becoming a specialist/arts channel (which was it's purpose a couple of decades ago). BBC Three is being reconsidered for a linear relaunch. BBC Four will continue to funded by the licence fee, but the BBC is seeking for international partners to offer it as a subscription service).


If BBC Three is to relaunch, there's a few hurdles the BBC will need to consider, CBBC's hours may need to be reduced to allow capacity for BBC Three in the evening. On Freeview, the channel slot is now taken up by the local channels and BBC Three's old slot on Virgin Media has been taken up by E4.

Instead of relaunching BBC Three, they should promote the programming as BBC One shows and give them more funding, especially shows that are export-worthy. They should merge CBBC and CBeebies into one channel but have longer broadcasting hours, with the possibility of the restoration of the CBBC afternoon slot on BBC One or/and Saturday mornings. BBC Four should close, with BBC Two giving these shows more prominence.

In my opinion, the BBC don't really need a multichannel strategy as their two main channels are on the top of EPG, BBC One is usually the channel where people check to see what's on first, then they flick down to BBC Two, ITV etc and the fact there's iPlayer as well. BBC One, BBC Two, CBBC/CBeebies and BBC News Channel is all they need, everything else can air on GOLD (which should really be FTA), Dave, Drama, Alibi, W, Eden and Yesterday. Quality of the programming not the Quantity of channels is more important.

If they give a "proper" direction to BBC Two, then I'm fine with it, especially with BBC Three returning

But CBBC and CBeebies could not (and should not) merge, the targets are very different, even if they might not seem so

I could see CBBC moving to BBC Two as a block and the more CBeebies brand surving , but that's still stretching it
Currently merging CBBC and CBeebies would suicidal

Same thing for TV Vlaanderen (in Flanders) and Skylink (in Czech Republic).

Discovery is known to be a bully in Europe. They ask way too much money for their channels, even though the schedules are mostly filled with reruns nowadays. This recently also happened in Italy.

I bet Discovery offers lower prices for Ziggo and Telenet, because they don't want to lose those.

Same with Viacom (MTV, Nickelodeon, Comedy Central etc.) in America, also bullies.

They are typical bullies, it's true, but Discovery and Sky luckily have reached an agreement

That could be a good idea and I would love to see BBC launching their own BBC Wales channel as a competitor to S4C, as it would show programmes in English and Welsh.

Cardiff is an exception, but you have to understand that a large part of Wales is Welsh-speaking, therefore, S4C is the "Welsh channel" already

Plus BBC One and BBC Two Wales, for English

Scottish Gaelic, is mainly spoken by much less people in smaller areas of northern Scotland, so the Scottish Gaelic is not attached to the "Scottish identity" as the Welsh language is to Wales

 

[Red Arrow]

It's true. Welsh is the most healthy Celtic language, even though Irish is doing better on paper.
Children can be taught mathematics and science in Welsh.

I can imagine that S4C is still doing better than BBC Alba.