DC Comics Animation - Soundtrack/Music News & Discussion Thread, Part 2 (Possible Spoilers)

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Skelly

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Well, thinking how old B:TAS is and only now we're got soundtracks -- I'm hopeful LLL will return to the rest in a couple years.
"The rest" as in "the rest of the DCAU"? It's really not likely. There's a reason they're stopping now and they're stopping because, outside of B:TAS, nothing sold very well. Superman didn't sell and apparently JL didn't reap a high profit either.
 

ShadowStar

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"The rest" as in "the rest of the DCAU"? It's really not likely. There's a reason they're stopping now and they're stopping because, outside of B:TAS, nothing sold very well. Superman didn't sell and apparently JL didn't reap a high profit either.
JLU could happen eventually. La-La Land have admitted in the past that they've moved forward with some titles knowing that they could afford to make a bit of a loss on them. Of course, such situations only come about when the label is doing very well generally. Hopefully as they release more and more successful titles based on well-known properties (like just about anything by John Williams), they'll have the cash to do a 4-disc JLU set. I very much doubt that it will happen this decade, but perhaps someday... They're big fans of the DCAU and so they may find a way to do it, in the end.

The sales of Trouble in Tokyo shouldn't, I feel, be taken as a reliable indicator of how well a 2 or 3 disc Teen Titans set would sell. Hopefully LLL will fell similarly and move forward with a TT set at some point (but again, not anytime soon from the sounds of things).

Batman Beyond isn't looking too hopeful as it's a different incarnation to BTAS, but if Adv of B&R and TNBA both sell well, then perhaps a 2 disc BB set (or 3 discs if they decide to include Return of the Joker as has been suggested before) will come about. Plus, Batman's 80th anniversary is coming up in 2019...

And even though MV has said that JL Dark is the last of their DC animated film soundtracks, Sub-Zero is very much BTAS and could still see the light of day.

Might be waiting a loooonng time but I'm not giving up hope! :)
 

Skelly

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Feel free to take what I'm about to write with a grain of salt (since it's pretty much all conjecture):

You can produce projects on goodwill only so many times. We're talking now after both S:TAS and apparently JL had problems getting off the ground. Both were 4-disc sets that no doubt required very high levels of research, transferring of elements, then mastering them, etc. The music in question has to be licensed from Warner - which MV once singled out as a very expensive company to work with. These are all costs that factor into a digital release as well; although you're not paying for machine and packaging fees in a digital release, it's not exactly a wildly cheap alternative.

On a different note - - I'd kill for some of the JLU music (particularly material from the Cadmus arc). I would assume that JLU might not be as expensive to produce since that music was (I think) performed entirely on synthesizers and uses samples for everything, so no AFM fees this time around.

Nevertheless, just about every project these guys do is a bit of a gamble, some more risky than others. After two disappointments (and I wonder how Batwoman did? Hopefully well!) I'm not sure if it's fair to half-expect any DCAU stuff from them in the future (outside of Batman, which MV seems more confident on). You might be able find a large slew of people on this board or elsewhere who'd pay top dollar for a JLU set, or a BB set, or Zeta Project or whatever, but according to sales we're still a minority. Animated cartoon music which isn't made for the little ones is a very niche market.

EDIT: MV offers clarification:
Regarding DC animated titles, if you can me find 1,000 customers who would be willing to purchase Justice League Unlimited Superman vol 2 and Teen Titans we would be more than happy to release those soundtracks. As for future Batman titles, New Batman Adventures and The Adventures of Batman and Robin are in the works. Batman SubZero is also in the works. Batman Beyond, including Revenge of the Joker, might be coming but we are not 100% convinced there is enough of a market for it.

MV
I'm usually not one to believe in the power of online petitions, but the folks here at Toonzone seem like upstanding citizens! If 1000 of you all (and I'm sure there are others at the FSM board who would also be enthused) were to put in (typed) writing, that you'd buy a JLU and/or TT set would you actually? I'm assuming they'd go for about $50-60 like the other sets.
DC fans were able to bring YJ back; maybe if there are enough of us around, we could save the music of the DCAU from oblivion as well.
 
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ShadowStar

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I'm usually not one to believe in the power of online petitions, but the folks here at Toonzone seem like upstanding citizens! If 1000 of you all (and I'm sure there are others at the FSM board who would also be enthused) were to put in (typed) writing, that you'd buy a JLU and/or TT set would you actually? I'm assuming they'd go for about $50-60 like the other sets.
DC fans were able to bring YJ back; maybe if there are enough of us around, we could save the music of the DCAU from oblivion as well.
I'm up for this.
 

Spider-Man

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I think Batman Beyond would end up selling really well, both a set for the show and the movie. As for the petition, I would do that 100% for a JLU and second Superman soundtrack collection, no question. I would put the money down today if it meant getting those two collections.

I noticed that WaterTower Records releases the soundtrack for the DC DVD movies digitally so at least we have that option for those.
 

Otaku-sempai

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I think Batman Beyond would end up selling really well, both a set for the show and the movie. As for the petition, I would do that 100% for a JLU and second Superman soundtrack collection, no question. I would put the money down today if it meant getting those two collections.

I noticed that WaterTower Records releases the soundtrack for the DC DVD movies digitally so at least we have that option for those.
Since Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker has seen an OST release, does anyone have the sales figures for that?

Perhaps Warner Bros. will keep things in-house and start issuing some physical releases through Water Tower Records.
 

John Takis

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Just to be clear, the question put to MV was specifically about summer convention releases, such as the bonanza of titles at last year's Comic-Con San Diego. While MV's reply more succinctly mentions "comic" titles, I wouldn't necessarily read that in the broadest possible way. (Please don't take my post as an indication that there WILL be superhero titles released in 2017! I'm just cautioning people not to go too far when drawing conclusions.)

While I'm checking in ... I applaud good intentions, but petitions are simply not a useful metric for the label. At best, they do not translate reliably into sales. At worst, they can give a negative impression. If you want another volume of SUPERMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES, for example, buy the existing volume or encourage someone who doesn't own it to buy it. Share your love of the set on social media, or on a superhero forum that isn't already tuned in to what LLL is doing. Prompt people who aren't familiar with the show to watch it and listen for the great music. Keep things positive and upbeat (i.e. not desperate)! Bottom line: petitions don't move the needle; actual sales might.
 
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Soundtracks for Batman and Harley Quinn and Batman vs Two-Face will hit October 6, 2017 from WaterTower Music. Press details are available by clicking here.

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ShadowStar

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Soundtracks for Batman and Harley Quinn and Batman vs Two-Face will hit October 6, 2017 from WaterTower Music. Press details are available by clicking here.

I recently listened to both of these releases (late to the party, I know) and thought they were fantastic! Batman and Harley Quinn features lots of lovely, rich music that recalls and recaptures the spirit of the DCAU, while Batman vs. Two-Face boasts so many fun, classic character themes... Both of these are a blast! Hopefully anyone on here who hasn't picked them yet will consider getting them for Christmas, if not sooner!
 

Spider-Man

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I see La-La Land Records has a question mark over one of their titles coming out on March 27. Could that be Sub-Zero?
 

DJMcNiff

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La-La Land Records posted this, yesterday, on their Facebook page and over on the FilmScore Monthly message board, regarding their STAS soundtrack:
Up, Up and AWAY....goes Superman The Animated Series

We are down to the final 15 units of this fantastic 4 cd set. We will not be pressing up any more copies so now is your chance to grab the animated man of steel before he goes out of print faster than a speeding bullet!

http://lalalandrecords.com/Site/SupermanAS.html
LLL later posted a follow-up to their FilmScore Monthly post:
After 4 years, multiple sales and discounts we will have sold 1500 units of this magnificent set. That's half the run.

Btw, 10 more left.

MV
John Takis posted this over on the FSM message board :
Of the hundred-plus releases I've worked on, SUPERMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES is one of the albums I'm most proud of. Everyone involved gave their all, and the music is just amazing ... superhero scoring for the ages! I'll be sorry to see this set go out of print, and hope we get the chance to bring you more incredible music from the series in the future.

 
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Pfeiffer-Pfan

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Well, Superman: TAS is now OUT OF PRINT, selling only 1,500 copies out of 3000. It's a shame this set sold so poorly, but the demand just wasn't there like it was for B:TAS. Apparently the Justice League set has sold even worse. However, LLL has offered some hope for die-hard fans with the possibility of an ultra limited edition boxset for those that want to complete the series:

We have a tentative vol 2 box set in the wings that would be either 6 or 7 discs that would complete the series for just die hard fans. Ultra limited edition release (probably 500 units) with a possible cost of $150. Still working out the numbers and seeing if its possible. Toying with pre order concept.

Thoughts?
Let's just hope we get TAOB&R, TNBA and Sub-Zero with ease.
 

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Let's just hope we get TAOB&R, TNBA and Sub-Zero with ease.
Fans need to actually buy these releases in order for them to keep coming out, especially for a small operation like La-La Land Records. Want to ensure we get the remaining Batman: The Animated Series titles (including TAOBAR, TNBA and Sub-Zero) and (possibly) Batman Beyond? It's simple. If you can afford it, buy these albums. Don't pirate them, buy them.
 

Pfeiffer-Pfan

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Fans need to actually buy these releases in order for them to keep coming out, especially for a small operation like La-La Land Records. Want to ensure we get the remaining Batman: The Animated Series titles (including TAOBAR, TNBA and Sub-Zero) and (possibly) Batman Beyond? It's simple. If you can afford it, buy these albums. Don't pirate them, buy them.
Oh absolutely and luckily, BATMAN sells... so we should have no major problem in that area. Also, we can't be mad at La La Land Records for putting a halt to many DC releases. They just weren't selling and it a business... tough choices have to be made.

However, on the other hand, I appreciate that not many can throw $60 to a 4 CD set, no matter the value or quality within. Even if they mean to get it ''a little later'', other things/issues preoccupy the mind and we have what happened to S:TAS.

Bottom line, if you love these CD's, and you can afford it, show your support by putting your money where your mouth is.
 

Otaku-sempai

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Fans need to actually buy these releases in order for them to keep coming out, especially for a small operation like La-La Land Records. Want to ensure we get the remaining Batman: The Animated Series titles (including TAOBAR, TNBA and Sub-Zero) and (possibly) Batman Beyond? It's simple. If you can afford it, buy these albums. Don't pirate them, buy them.
Unfortunately, some of us are chronically strapped for cash and have to keep putting off some luxury purchases. However, not pirating them either!
 

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Reposting May 26 post at FSM boards. Page 78, 13th post. La La Land says a The Adventures of Batman and Robin soundtrack is set to release in 2019.
 

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For those interested, the soundtrack to Batman Ninja is available to order from Japanese outlets, including Amazon Japan, Play-Asia and CDJapan. As of now, the Batman Ninja soundtrack is listed an an exclusive to that region. While it is possible, there are currently no confirmed plans to release the soundtrack, from Warner Bros. and WaterTower music, in North America.
 

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