Cartoon Network International News Thread 17.0

[Markus Nelis]

Japan is exciting after 9p when most people sleep. During daytime they're basically the same like the rest of the feeds. With more shows but the difference isn't huge.

 

[E-Scope]

Of course, Japan’s CN has great variety despite not getting stuff like Craig of the Creek. Here in Europe, we’re stuck with Dimensional branding, endless Gumball repeats (notably on the U.K. and CEE feeds) and lack of classics on Max (even some modern CN shows like Steven Universe and Regular Show have edits/missing episodes before). The closest we could get to a better CN here in Europe is Western Europe (available in English, French, German, Portuguese, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish and Dutch).

 

[Markus Nelis]

endless Gumball repeats (notably on the U.K. and CEE feeds)

It's a show that's popular everywhere. It's their SpongeBob at this point.

 

[AbdElRahman AlNjdy]

Here is Cartoon Network Japan's schedule for today.
04:00 New Looney Tunes
05:00 Uncle Grandpa
06:00 Cartoonito - Thomas and Friends
06:30 Cartoonito - Tom and Jerry Kids
07:00 Cartoonito - Mush Mush and The Mushables
07:15 Cartoonito - Batwheels
07:30 Looney Tunes Cartoons
08:00 Tom and Jerry
09:00 Gumball
10:00 Teen Titans Go
11:00 Uncle Grandpa
12:00 Wacky Races 2017
13:00 Jellystone
14:00 Teen Titans Go
16:00 Tom and Jerry
18:00 Teen Titans Go
19:00 Gumball
21:00 Sergeant Keroro
01:00 Samurai Jack
02:30 Young Justice
The schedule may be varied but for me it isn't better ... I am not saying it's bad but it isn't better than the WE Feed
Just because it has some classics isn't enough to make it the best schedule of all the feeds "for me".

 

[E-Scope]

Here is Cartoon Network Japan's schedule for today.
04:00 New Looney Tunes
05:00 Uncle Grandpa
06:00 Cartoonito - Thomas and Friends
06:30 Cartoonito - Tom and Jerry Kids
07:00 Cartoonito - Mush Mush and The Mushables
07:15 Cartoonito - Batwheels
07:30 Looney Tunes Cartoons
08:00 Tom and Jerry
09:00 Gumball
10:00 Teen Titans Go
11:00 Uncle Grandpa
12:00 Wacky Races 2017
13:00 Jellystone
14:00 Teen Titans Go
16:00 Tom and Jerry
18:00 Teen Titans Go
19:00 Gumball
21:00 Sergeant Keroro
01:00 Samurai Jack
02:30 Young Justice
The schedule may be varied but for me it isn't better ... I am not saying it's bad but it isn't better than the WE Feed
Just because it has some classics isn't enough to make it the best schedule of all the feeds "for me".

They still have Tom and Jerry Kids, Wacky Races (2017) and Young Justice on the schedule, long after every other CN feed removed them.

 

[ROToon Alt]

Here is Cartoon Network Japan's schedule for today.
04:00 New Looney Tunes
05:00 Uncle Grandpa
06:00 Cartoonito - Thomas and Friends
06:30 Cartoonito - Tom and Jerry Kids
07:00 Cartoonito - Mush Mush and The Mushables
07:15 Cartoonito - Batwheels
07:30 Looney Tunes Cartoons
08:00 Tom and Jerry
09:00 Gumball
10:00 Teen Titans Go
11:00 Uncle Grandpa
12:00 Wacky Races 2017
13:00 Jellystone
14:00 Teen Titans Go
16:00 Tom and Jerry
18:00 Teen Titans Go
19:00 Gumball
21:00 Sergeant Keroro
01:00 Samurai Jack
02:30 Young Justice
The schedule may be varied but for me it isn't better ... I am not saying it's bad but it isn't better than the WE Feed
Just because it has some classics isn't enough to make it the best schedule of all the feeds "for me".

WE is better for you...?
Man this generation is just STUCK with those four shows,huh?

 

[Francisque]

WE is better for you...?
Man this generation is just STUCK with those four shows,huh?

I wouldn't say there are just four shows, on CN WE

 

[ROToon Alt]

I wouldn't say there are just four shows, on CN WE

I was referring to AT,RS,SU,Gumball...

 

[zakawer2]

They still have Tom and Jerry Kids, Wacky Races (2017) and Young Justice on the schedule, long after every other CN feed removed them.

Wacky Races (2017) is at least available on Max in Denmark, (and presumably other European countries), but unfortunately I can't say the same about the other two programs you mentioned. The later post-uncancelation episodes of Young Justice haven't even made it to Europe at all!

 

[Moleoman]

HBO Europe was only used by WarnerMedia (now WBD) to get broadcast licences in Czechia, it's really the ex-Turner division that's calling the shots. They have editorial involvement as the (HBO) Max team has to work with the linear team to decide when shows are going to premiere, and how it should be promoted.

I remember reading somewhere that before AT&T bought WarnerMedia, Turner tried to move most of their British licenses to Germany (they've done that for six channels): You are being redirected...

 

[RegularCapital]

I remember reading somewhere that before AT&T bought WarnerMedia, Turner tried to move most of their British licenses to Germany (they've done that for six channels): You are being redirected...

Yeah, I remember that article, I guess it wasn't ideal for them.

 

[Francisque]

Yeah, I remember that article, I guess it wasn't ideal for them.

A German licence prevents them from having an internal ad break ( Medienstaatsvertrag; also called MStV), that's why I suppose they chose a Czech licence, same for many Paramount ones

While not problematic for many European operations that don't put advertising in the middle of the show (but hypothetically might choose to do that, from time to time), it becomes more problematic for e.g. the "Irish" one, that depend on the British operation

According to the German MStV Media State treaty, internal advertising for children's programming is forbidden ; except I THINK for movies

Anywhere in the EU, for those that allow it (so not the Netherlands, Sweden, Germany etc.) an ad break is allowed for each scheduled period of 30 minutes if the show is long 30 minutes

 

[Markus Nelis]

WE is better for you...?
Man this generation is just STUCK with those four shows,huh?

While I get you're into more modern shows as you are younger than a lot of us, these shows do well in certain areas. We gotta thank Germany and Portugal for keeping these shows after all the years they have existed. Of course they focus on modern shows during the best timeslots but they're going to need some old shows to appeal towards more older audiences late evening when most kids are sleeping.

Btw, Gumball is still relevant as season 7 is coming. However the other three shows don't even air a lot. Trust me, most people are fine that they have some ended shows on the schedule. Two hours a day on a 24 hour schedule isn't a lot.

Japan's schedule isn't that much better tbh. They seem to have some two hour marathon slots for a few shows. WE only does that once a day believe it or not. They're not bad. They are decent when we talk about modern CN standards.

CN WE schedule for December 2-8, 2024. Pretty solid to me.

 

[Francisque]

The difference isn't huge at all, indeed

Plus, CN acts differently according to the audience and the prominence the channel has in a certain country, not everything can be generalized

 

[E-Scope]

Since the thread's getting full, why not share one last continuity. This time, it's Cartoon Network RSEE from 1st May 2016 (including a up next bumper and promo for Total Drama Presents: The Ridonculous Race with Rob Rackstraw)

 

[Daffyrocks]

Cartoon Network CEE (incomplete) Schedule and Highlights for December 2024

And I am saying "incomplete", simply because ever since this recent unification not only of the CN European feeds, but also for the management, the online interaction has become veeery lackluster from their part. Normally I should have received the highlights and schedules of CN and Cartoonito already by now, but I ended up still waiting, while even the TV guides that are provided with the schedules by TiVo have many gapses. Just like that.

Anyways, let's see what we have for now:

- New episodes of Hero Inside (S2) premiere starting from 2nd December. They will air at 14:40 CET, with reruns at 20:15 CET (and also on weekends at the same timeslots). The batch, consisting of 9 episodes, will all be spread (with double premieres per day) until 6th December.
- New series / season of Totally Spies (S7.1) continues with the premieres, daily at 15:15 CET and with reruns at 19:45 CET and on the day after at 07:55 CET. The batch, with three more episodes left, will end with the premieres on 4th December.
- Special Christmas / Winter programming block will start from 7th December, with holiday-related episodes and also (occasionally) movie features. At first, the block airs on weekends, from 09:20 till 11:40 CET each Saturday and Sunday. From 23rd December onwards, it will also expand to weekdays, airing in-between the same timeslots. On the 25th, most likely, it will be an all-day Christmas line-up, but for now I can't confirm since that day has a literally blank line-up (on the source I used). Yes, you heard it right. So Idk yet what will go on from Christmas day onwards, or if this special line-up will continue until New Year's Eve. But all I can say is, as part of this, once again, several shows are making one-off comebacks for this occasion, some of which the CEE viewers will be very surprised and amased about. Among them, shows like We Bare Bears (and Baby Bears), Apple and Onion, Scooby-Doo and Guess Who, Be Cool Scooby-Doo and Looney Tunes Cartoons will return to air themed episodes, alongside...... Adventure Time, Uncle Grandpa and REGULAR SHOW!!!!!!!!!! The last two of which, basically, make their return to the "CEE airings" after approximatively 6 years of not being shown on those formerly-separated feeds!!!! Yes, this is fantastic. If only the CEE feed could benefit from the same variety as WE and not only as part of special occasions, they're really losing opportunities. The fact they decided to air RS alone, is a big step forward for us, considering their recent insecurity about more mature (12+) shows. I applaude the new merger once again, they deserve this because of these wonderful events they plan. Promo will likely come up this upcoming week on CEE, I am looking forward to be teased already.
- Two Teen Titans Go episodes from season 8, that haven't been shown before, will premiere as part of the Christmas blocks on 7th December. "The Great Christmas Escape" and "Christmas Magic" will both air back-to-back at 09:20 CET, with subsequent reruns as part of this block.

As for line-up changes:
- Hero Inside returns from the 2nd of December, replacing Teen Titans Go at 14:40 CET and Total DramaRama at 20:15 CET.
- Starting from 23rd December onwards, aside from the slots occupied by the Christmas line-up, the normal schedule will have yet another reshuffle, which at this point is getting even more ridiculous. Gone entirely will be Jellystone, Totally Spies, Hero Inside and (shockingly), for the very first time ever probably for CEE, all traces of Bakugan will be removed from the channel. Instead, regular slots of TTG, Gumball, Craig and Total DramaRama will expand even more thorough the day, to the point there will now also be not only triple slots, but quadruple bills of them as well. Seriously now, they should just merge the CEE and WE feeds altogether, or at least combine the same line-up for both of them, because it really makes no much sense for one channel to have a diverse array of shows while the other one just treats the "B-grade" stuff as a joke. Both CEE and WE deserve to be varied and people have to understand already that not everyone prefers to stream, some of the folks just preferring to be "traditional" (like I am most of the time). In the case of which, kids who stay on live telly for their dose of cartoons need to be treated with a diversity. Not the garbage line-up CEE has to offer. Even Cartoonito CEE is a bit better than CN at this point!!!!

Here's the line-ups starting from 2nd December, (for now) until the 24th:

(all times CET; changes are bolded)

02/12-22/12:

06:00 Bakugan (2023 series)
06:30 The Amazing World of Gumball
06:55 The Amazing World of Gumball
07:20 The Amazing World of Gumball
07:45 Lamput (04/12, 10/12 and 11/12)
07:55 Totally Spies!
08:25 Craig of The Creek
08:50 Craig of The Creek
09:20 Jellystone / Holidays Line-up [WEEKENDS]
09:50 Teen Titans Go! / Holidays Line-up [WEEKENDS]
10:15 Teen Titans Go! / 10:20 Holidays Line-up [WEEKENDS]
10:40 The Amazing World of Gumball / 10:45 Holidays Line-up [WEEKENDS]
11:10 The Amazing World of Gumball / 11:15 Holidays Line-up [WEEKENDS] (sometimes may expand over the first half of the next slot, depending on the duration of the preceeding programs)
11:40 Total DramaRama (3 segments)
12:10 Lamput (20/12)
12:20 Craig of The Creek
12:45 Craig of The Creek
13:15 The Amazing World of Gumball
13:45 The Amazing World of Gumball
14:05 Lamput (NOT EVERYDAY)
14:15 Teen Titans Go!
14:40 Hero Inside
15:00 Lamput (13/12)
15:15 Totally Spies!
15:45 Total DramaRama
16:10 Total DramaRama
16:30 Lamput [SATURDAYS]
16:35 Craig of The Creek (4 segments)
17:25 The Amazing World of Gumball
17:55 The Amazing World of Gumball
18:25 Jellystone
18:55 Teen Titans Go!
19:20 Teen Titans Go!
19:40 Lamput (NOT EVERYDAY)
19:45 Totally Spies!
20:15 Hero Inside
20:45 Bakugan (2023 series)
21:10-06:00 The Amazing World of Gumball (with Lamput or Prince Ivandoe minisodes on random days at around 05:40 CET or so)

Basically, the evening block from 18:55 till 21:10 CET will be a sort of all-action primetime schedule. Too bad they consider necessary to ruin it later on...

23/12 and 24/12:

06:00 Total DramaRama
06:25 Total DramaRama
06:50 Total DramaRama (3 segments)
07:25 Total DramaRama
07:55 Craig of The Creek
08:25 Craig of The Creek
08:50 Craig of The Creek
09:10 Lamput (24/12)
09:20-11:40 Holidays Line-up (sometimes may expand over the first half of the next slot, depending on the duration of the preceeding programs)
11:40 The Amazing World of Gumball
12:10 The Amazing World of Gumball
12:40 The Amazing World of Gumball
13:10 The Amazing World of Gumballl
13:40 Teen Titans Go!
14:10 Teen Titans Go!
14:35 Teen Titans Go! (3 segments)
15:05 Total DramaRama
15:25 Total DramaRama
15:50 Total DramaRama
16:15 Total DramaRama
16:40 Craig of The Creek (3 segments)
17:20 Craig of The Creek
17:50 Craig of The Creek (3 segments)
18:25 The Amazing World of Gumball (1 segment???)
18:45 The Amazing World of Gumball
19:15 The Amazing World of Gumball (3 segments)
19:40 Lamput (24/12)
19:55 Teen Titans Go!
20:20 Teen Titans Go!
20:50 Teen Titans Go!
21:15-06:00 The Amazing World of Gumball (with Lamput or Prince Ivandoe minisodes on random days at around 05:40 CET or so)

Do you consider that a normal TV schedule? I sure do not. They should very well just get rid of Lamput as well when it is not premiering new minisodes, unless they also consider it "one of the big shows".


The Christmas / Winter blocks will look like this:

07/12:
09:20 (NEW) Teen Titans Go: "The Great Holiday Escape" / "Christmas Magic"
09:50 The Amazing World of Gumball: "Christmas" / "The Lie"
10:20 Craig of The Creek: "Breaking the Ice" / "Fan or Foe" (the latter part actually has nothing to do with Christmas nor winter)
10:45 We Bare Bears: "Christmas Movies" / "The Perfect Tree"
11:15 Looney Tunes Cartoons: "Bugs Bunny's 24-Carrot Holiday Special"
11:50 Total DramaRama: "The Tree Stooges Save Christmas - Part 1" / "The Tree Stooges Save Christmas - Part 2"

08/12:
09:20 Uncle Grandpa: "Chill Out" / "Secret Santa"
09:50 Total DramaRama: "Me, My Elf, and I" / "Snow Country for Old Men"
10:15 Scooby-Doo and Guess Who?: "Scooby on Ice!"
10:45 Regular Show: "The White Elephant Gift Exchange" / "The Christmas Special" (yeah, they're actually airing a half-hour special which should have aired alone in the same slot with a normal 11-minutes episode, in a "triple segments format")
11:15 Teen Titans Go: "A Holiday Story" / "Beast Boy on a Shelf"

14/12:
09:20 We Bare Bears: "Christmas Parties" / "Ice Cave"
09:50 Adventure Time: "Holly Jolly Secrets - Part 1" / "Holly Jolly Secrets - Part 2"
10:20 The Amazing World of Gumball: "Christmas" / "The Lie"
10:45 Teen Titans Go: "Christmas Crusaders" / "The True Meaning of Christmas"
11:15 Craig of The Creek: "Winter Break"

15/12:
09:20 Be Cool, Scooby-Doo: "Scary Christmas"
09:50 Craig of The Creek: "Locked Out Cold" / "The New Jersey"
10:20 (NEW) Teen Titans Go: "The Great Holiday Escape" / "Christmas Magic"
10:45 Regular Show: "Christmas in Space"
11:15 Total DramaRama: "Me, My Elf, and I" / "Snow Country for Old Men"

21/12:
09:20 Teen Titans Go: "Halloween v Christmas" / "Second Christmas"
09:50 The Amazing World of Gumball: "Christmas" / "The Lie"
10:20 Scooby-Doo: Haunted Holidays
10:45 We Baby Bears: "Snowplace Like Home" (single-segment slot)
11:00 Apple and Onion: "Christmas Spirit" (same as above)
11:15 Uncle Grandpa: "Christmas Special"

22/12:
09:20 Looney Tunes Cartoons: "Bugs Bunny's 24-Carrot Holiday Special"
09:55 Craig of The Creek: "Snow Day" / "Welcome to Creek Street"
10:25 Adventure Time: "Holly Jolly Secrets - Part 1" / "Holly Jolly Secrets - Part 2"
10:55 Teen Titans Go: "Teen Titans Save Christmas" / (NEW) "The Great Holiday Escape"
11:20 Regular Show: "The White Elephant Gift Exchange" / "New Year's Kiss"

23/12:
09:20 (NEW) Teen Titans Go: "The Great Holiday Escape" / "Christmas Magic"
09:45 The Amazing World of Gumball: "The Lie" / "Christmas"
10:15 Craig of The Creek: "Winter Break"
10:45 We Bare Bears: "Christmas Movies" / "Ice Cave"
11:15 Scooby-Doo: Haunted Holidays

24/12:
09:20 Total DramaRama: "Snow Country for Old Men" / "Snack to the Future" (the latter segment actually isn't Winter or Christmas-related in any way, Idk why they chose to show it inside the block, other than the fact they consider desserts can be easily associated alone with the Christmas presents vibe)
09:40 Adventure Time: "Holly Jolly Secrets - Part 1" / "Holly Jolly Secrets - Part 2"
10:10 Regular Show: "Christmas in Space"
10:35 Looney Tunes Cartoons: "Bugs Bunny's 24-Carrot Holiday Special"
11:10 Teen Titans Go: "Beast Boy on a Shelf" / "A Holiday Story"
11:35 Craig of The Creek: "Breaking the Ice" / "Fan or Foe"

25/12-31/12:
TO BE ANNOUNCED!!!!!!!

Sources of inspiration: programtv.naziemna.info and tv mustra, along with the help of @BlooMac who gave me his Bulgarian xml schedule that despite also going on till 24th, at least I could fill up a gap in a "missing" slot from 23/12.

Wacky Races (2017) is at least available on Max in Denmark, (and presumably other European countries), but unfortunately I can't say the same about the other two programs you mentioned. The later post-uncancelation episodes of Young Justice haven't even made it to Europe at all!

The Wacky Races reboot is available on all the European versions of Max, indeed. Also, fyi, season 3 of Young Justice actually ended up in most of Europe on Netflix, where it even got dubs.

 

[RegularCapital]

A German licence prevents them from having an internal ad break ( Medienstaatsvertrag; also called MStV), that's why I suppose they chose a Czech licence, same for many Paramount ones

While not problematic for many European operations that don't put advertising in the middle of the show (but hypothetically might choose to do that, from time to time), it becomes more problematic for e.g. the "Irish" one, that depend on the British operation

According to the German MStV Media State treaty, internal advertising for children's programming is forbidden ; except I THINK for movies

Anywhere in the EU, for those that allow it (so not the Netherlands, Sweden, Germany etc.) an ad break is allowed for each scheduled period of 30 minutes if the show is long 30 minutes

The thing is, that the channels that were licensed weren't kids channels, they were channels like TCM and Warner TV. I think they were trying to decide what they were doing at the time it was a complicated mess.

I remember when they did the Czech licences just for the VOD/Streaming side of things first which led me to believe they got these licenses because the European Transfrontier Television Treaty doesn't cover streaming/non-linear services as the UK was leaving the EU, but yet not every country has signed that treaty and EEA membership superseded it for the countries that didn't. So they settled for actual broadcast Czech licences.

 

[BlooMac]

Japan tends to have more special events and rotates their classic shows, plus being aimed more at a general audience and having some mature shows, which CN WE is seriously lacking.

I mean, sure, having AT, RS and SU overnight is nice, but is that the best they can do? Plus, they're severely censored, which is an issue.

 

[Daffyrocks]

Cartoon Network CEE December 2024 Premieres Info

(NEW) Totally Spies!
01/12 - 15:15 CET - S7E07 - "Totally Trolling, Much?"
02/12 - 15:15 CET - S7E08 - "Mega Moon Cheese"
03/12 - 15:15 CET - S7E09 - "What Woolly Mammoth"
04/12 - 15:15 CET - S7E10 - "The Dah-Who?"

Hero Inside
02/12 - 14:40 CET - S2E01 / S2E02 - "Strawberry On The Air" / "Criminals & Chameleons" (SEASON PREMIERE)
03/12 - 14:40 CET - S2E03 / S2E04 - "Hard-Hitting Interview" / "The Good, The Bad, And The Jelly"
04/12 - 14:40 CET - S2E05 / S2E06 - "Coin Robber" / "Dizzy Donut Clues"
05/12 - 14:40 CET - S2E07 / S2E08 - "Special Delivery" / "Get The Book!"
06/12 - 14:40 CET - S2E09 - "Battle On The Bridge" (SEASON FINALE) (+ repeat of S2E01)

Teen Titans Go
07/12 - 09:20 CET - S8E02 / S8E24 (S8E02 / S8E27) - "The Great Holiday Escape" / "Christmas Magic"
(and with that, they will have finally aired the entirety of season 8 of the show)

Sources for the episodes titles: fernsehserien.de and Totally Spies Wiki

About "Scooby-Doo: Haunted Holidays", actually I am not sure if this is supposed to be another channel premiere. I know the TV special aired first here on Boomerang CEE back in 2019 (and I watched it back then), but I can't remember at the moment if it ever got the chance to also be aired on CN CEE before, until now. If someone can clarify me about this.

 

[zakawer2]

CN WE doesn't have Lamput, Total DramaRama or Bakugan (2023). They don't even have the new Totally Spies! season either, which means that it might not get dubbed into Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, German or European Portuguese, or that dubs in those languages might instead end up on Netflix or some other third-party TV channel/VOD service instead of on Cartoon Network.

That said, I'm a firm believer in retaining some older retro CN original programming on CN WE (even if it means buying the rights to some older dubs produced for third-party channels or even producing brand-new dubs in, say, European Portuguese), and I'd also like to see some pre-2010 programming made a permanent part of the channel.