"Black Lightning" Season Three Talkback (Spoilers)

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Felt like a bit of a sucker punch there was a Earth-1 version of the Black Lightning cast of characters. But still rad that Jefferson was Secretary of Education like in the comics. But troubling there's an ASA.

Well, that was a bit predictable for the kind of story we had, but that's okay. The Pierce family exists (existed?) on both Earth-1 and Earth-2, each version illustrating a different side of Jennifer's dilemma. And the ASA could be even worse than what we've seen in the series. Do we have a designation for the Earth of Black Lightning? I can't recall, but I guess we'll have one tomorrow.
Good question, I don't think they ever announced what it was so yeah, I think we'll know in the Flash episode.
 
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Black Lightning "The Book Of Resistance: Chapter Four: Earth Crisis"

I'm glad this wasn't an official part of the Crisis, because man, that was bleak. Now we know the story behind Black Lightning of Earth 1, and it's grim.

As for Earth 2, I am not surprised, because good people are more likely to become evil in that Universe. I do not fear for Jennifer because that strikes me more as a Universe specific thing, instead of a Jennifer specific one.

What I don't get is the timeline. Is Jennifer going back and forth in time? Because Earth 2 was "destroyed" earlier in Arrow's season. And what was with the red skies being ever present? The destruction of Earth 2 on Arrow happened nearly immediately, and it is hinted Earths 66 and 89 were obliterated pretty quickly too. It's clear Black Lightning taking part in the Crisis is last minute, because unlike those other shows, they don't have the story straight.

Jennifer speculating that their Universes were being pushed together suggests that if the Arrowverse will wind up combining the Universe's of Earth 1 and Earth 38 as speculated, they will probably do the same for this Universe. I vehemently spoke out against the likelihood of this idea on message boards, because the crossover was last-minute, and that notion would basically change everything about the show, including the fact that DC heroes like Supergirl are fictional in that Universe. But I'm guessing I'm going to have to eat crow about that. That's how seriously they are taking this.

Part of me wonders if this was a mandate from the network (unlikely) or Berlanti (my guess). But I can't imagine the showrunners must be happy about it. I think it's a good thing, but I also think it could mess up a large subtext of the series. We'll find out in January, I suppose.

Can you believe Freeland under NSA occupation is the GOOD Universe? At least Our Jennifer now knows what's up with Odell. That will help thing greatly, I think.

Dire episode. ****.
 

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What I don't get is the timeline. Is Jennifer going back and forth in time? Because Earth 2 was "destroyed" earlier in Arrow's season. And what was with the red skies being ever present? The destruction of Earth 2 on Arrow happened nearly immediately, and it is hinted Earths 66 and 89 were obliterated pretty quickly too. It's clear Black Lightning taking part in the Crisis is last minute, because unlike those other shows, they don't have the story straight.
Yeah, that could have been executed better. I guess it was a combo of her instability emotion-wise, her powers, the anti-matter wave, space-time that allowed her to project her consciousness to Earth-1 and Earth-2 prior to the current events in Earth-2's demise? I hope the crew doesn't say it was a fever dream thing. But man, wouldn't it be weird, wrong, etc. if Jefferson has to slip into Earth-1 Jefferson's life after the Crisis? I kinda wish the only tie-in aspect of the episode was Jefferson being plucked out of his universe, feels like they did too much, imo.
 
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This interlude was mostly a showcase for China McLain (Jennifer), illustrating Jennifer's conflict of interest between her family and that backstabbing Odell, who is our season long big bad, unfortunately.

Interested in seeing how Jeff interacts with his new friends......

@Fone Bone: This is actually part of Crisis, but an interlude chapter, not a full episode of Crisis.
 

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Jennifer speculating that their Universes were being pushed together suggests that if the Arrowverse will wind up combining the Universe's of Earth 1 and Earth 38 as speculated, they will probably do the same for this Universe. I vehemently spoke out against the likelihood of this idea on message boards, because the crossover was last-minute, and that notion would basically change everything about the show, including the fact that DC heroes like Supergirl are fictional in that Universe. But I'm guessing I'm going to have to eat crow about that. That's how seriously they are taking this.
I do remember hints, early in the series, that suggested that other superheroes do exist in Black Lightning's world (something like, "Why is it, if a person of color gets powers, they are seen as a thug or a terrorist?"), though I don't recall any being mentioned by name. On the other hand, those hints could easily be dismissed as pop-culture references.
 
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"The Book of Markovia: Chapter One: Blessings and Curses Reborn" - Episode 10
Jefferson navigates his new reality following the events of the Red Wave, and Lynn's determination to save the meta kids deepens her troubles. Meanwhile, Anissa/Blackbird faces new challenges. Lastly, Jennifer's bond with Brandon begins to grow.
 

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Black Lightning "The Book Of Markovia: Chapter One: Blessings And Curses Reborn"

Lynn seems extra pathetic. I get that's what addicts are, but it sure isn't flattering to her actress.

It amazes me that Jefferson actually HAS to be told by Anissa to step back. He should already know that.

Odell is still one step ahead. The rat. But Jen is so powerful she fried her collar. If she can do that, Odell and the NSA is in trouble.

Like the relationship between Gambi and TC.

Jefferson saying Superman is real is another reminder than before the Universes were combined, the DC Heroes were all fictional in this Universe. And nobody else but Jefferson and possibly Jen knew that.

Solid episode. ***1/2.
 

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Lynn is in denial, not so much pathetic. For that alone, Odell needs to be taken down once and for all. The time for that old rat to keep running is over.

The way I see it, this should've been over before Crisis, and post-Crisis, you could start with a clean slate, and a new story arc for the rest of the season, since there's two months or less left.

But the idiots didn't think of that......
 

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Lynn is in denial, not so much pathetic. For that alone, Odell needs to be taken down once and for all. The time for that old rat to keep running is over.

The way I see it, this should've been over before Crisis, and post-Crisis, you could start with a clean slate, and a new story arc for the rest of the season, since there's two months or less left.

But the idiots didn't think of that......
Black Lightning's involvement in the Crisis was last minute. The producers aren't idiots just because they were caught flat-footed with the Universe reboot.
 

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But was it WB's or CW's call to include Black Lightning in the crossover?
Even if it weren't it is not something to call the producers idiots over. Words have power. Berlanti shows have done their share of idiotic things (side-eye in Riverdale and Titans' direction) but you are using language that is appropriate in only the harshest of circumstances for things that are no big deal. That's not okay.
 

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