TheGreatOne2
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They could of gotten Veronica Taylor to voice Goh mind you
They could of gotten Veronica Taylor to voice Goh mind you
Is Pokemon Journeys season 23 of the franchise or a reboot? I checked out the first two episodes of the series and noticed something odd. No reference is made to Ash's previous travels, companions or accomplishments.
Media Man said:Example #1 In episode two where Ash meets his new traveling companion Go. Go is given the the choice of choosing his first pokemon a charmander, squirtle or bulbasaur. Instead of making a comment or offering sage advice like "I owned all three you can't go wrong with any of them!" Ash doesn't say a thing.
Example #2 Ash visited professor Oak at his lab. Long time viewers of the series know that the professor is watching over all of Ash's critters from previous series. I found it odd that Ash didn't stop to check up on any of them. (Hey bulbasaur, tauros how's it going?)
Media Man said:Still debating if I am going to keep watching. I think the previous season was the perfect book end to the anime after 22 years and this season is completely unnecessary. Also not thrilled to be in Kanto again. Couldn't we travel to another far away region we haven't heard of before?!
No, it is not a reboot. I guess that you missed the shot in Ash's room where they showcased some of his keepshakes from previous series, including his trophies for winning the Alola League and defeating Professor Kukui. It also includes his Indigo League participation award, his Orange League trophy, various Gym badges, his Battle Frontier plaque and his Z-Ring. There's also a Clefairy doll that he might have gotten from Lillie off-screen. That confirms that this series is still set within the same universe/continuity as previous series. Ever since BW, fans seem to be set on the notion that a series has to be a reboot, which is just so annoying to me. There were people so set on SM being in a different continuity right up until Misty and Brock showed up. The same thing basically happened with BW until Dawn showed up too.
Lucario:
I rewatched the opening of episode two and saw what you mentioned. But the scene is so short that if you blinked, you have missed it. I also watched episode three this weekend. Team Rocket returned and further reenforced what you had said [as they were blasting off again] Pokemon Journeys is a successor series.
I like the show's new open. But I am not sold on the anime's new direction after Alola. Ash's new position as a professor's research fellow is fine. His pairing with Gou [sorry about this misspelling] is fine but they really need to get out of the Kanto region. If feels too much like re-traveling on a road that we have traveled before.
Media Man said:Episode 3 dealt with bulbasaur and its various evolutions [yawn].
I have been watching the anime since the summer of 1999 when I was in master control and aired first season [which was syndicated] for the audience who watched the television station where I worked. After 22 seasons I can say the following without bias:
SHOW ME SOMETHING NEW!!!!
Some place Ash hasn't been to. A new region!! New pokemon! Please do not remix old stuff and put it in a shiny new package.
"After seeing every episode ever broadcast in the US and Canada, I will give the series a few more episodes to AMAZE me. Like seasons 20- 22 did.
Okay next episode we have an old character coming back. I don't remember which one she was on, BW or XY, those shows kind of mixed together?
Anyway if old characters are going to be returning, I hope Serena returns. I like to she and Hikari become friends, I think they would get along, Hikari desperately needs more screen time. This is just the Satoshi and Go show so far.
It'll probably be awhile before any old main character appears, they're not even showing Bonnie/Clemont when they live in the main Kalos city.
CyberCubed said:Revisiting Alola will be very difficult to avoid old characters there which is probably why they're holding off. Other than Lillie and her family, all the other SM characters should still be there so I don't know how they can avoid showing them all when Ash goes back there.
I wonder why Lillie is absent in this.Funny the previous discussion when the Alola cast is coming back next week, or rather, Ash/Go are visiting Alola. Everyone except Lillie and her family are there.
Old Pokemon and family. I hope it's more than one ep but even if it isn't Ash/Go will return to Alola again in the future.
It's kind of ironic the SM cast became so popular, as you can see on twitter they're all universally loved. The only SM character I don't care for is Sophocles and Mallow was sadly underused, but otherwise I'm happy to see them back.
It's funny all these new female leads and casts are so popular, I fully expect to see more old characters in the future like Bonnie/Clemont and a few others.
It's also kinda funny how even though SM only ended like 5 months ago, seeing them again is oddly nostalgic. Really shouldn't be since SM just ended, but it feels that way either way.
I am disappointed we didn't have Team Rocket in this episode and have their Alola reunion, though I don't how it would fit this episode. But the episode ending does leave the window open, that we will be back in Alola.
And at some point we better see Lily and her father reunited.
As for Lillie, I'm pretty sure that they'll do something with her storyline of finding her father at some point. Maybe she'll run into Ash and Goh while they're searching for Mohn. Since they addressed that she is still traveling with her family here, they'll probably do something with it down the road. It would be kind of weird for the reunion to happen off-screen at this point.
Instead of Ash and Goh, how about Ash, Goh, and Chloe. One of the biggest disappointment of this show, is the lack of Chloe having much of a role. Her arc is not knowing what to do with her life, maybe someone like Lillie could be an influence. Though I think Serena is a better choice to help Chloe, since she went though a similar arc.
Dawn is probably likely in 2021 at some point if DP remakes happen. I don't think she would get a 9 ep return this time like in BW though, this series doesn't do long arcs. May even without VA issues is unlikely, she's now too old for the younger fans to be familiar with her and most old fans are around 30 years old now and out of the target audience. I'm on social media like twitter and I still see a lot of dislike for May and Max to this day, sadly, so I don't think we'll see them. Just today I saw someone say they like Hoenn as a saga but they hate May and Max, and they don't like rewatching it for that reason. May hasn't been part of the anime for almost 15 years now and I still see people hate the character or find her annoying, I wish I was exaggerating but I've seen the post online (if anyone is curious I could PM them)