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  1. Bartak123

    Man...Being American Sucks Right Now

    Canada is socialist! We have free health care, thats about it... I HATE YOU GLOBAL!!!!!! (we don't get to watch superbowl commercials)
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    Death penalty.

    The library example is not a contradiction, it is laugable that you would think so. As I said before wrong conclusions can be made. Yet it corrects itself. It has the ability to correct itself. I value logical conclusion-truth. Others do not and so in the end they will disregard logical...
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    In 1000 years, what will people think when they look back at our society.

    Well the soviets went into space first...this was quite a big deal The domain of space cannot be totally centered on the U.S. That would be highly unfair. And still, a lot of the space program was built on German minds. Hence, why Russia and the U.S had such good space programs. Also...
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    Has terror grabbed hold?

    Well it really doesn't matter... I mean whats the scale... biological weapon...the whole of North America could face extinction Chemical weapons...a gust of wind is a bad thing dirty nukes...lets not go there...
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    Death penalty.

    Not go out in the world...they work from the jail. The miracle of the interenet allows for many things. If they can be put to 'productive' use-essientially a free worker force. An engineer who killed a man in cold blood, may go to jail but should still have the capability to do what he does best.
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    A question about the olymphics?

    My friend is bronze medalist in Judo... He trained since he was seven for three hours every day.
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    Death penalty.

    I always thought the underlying basis of man was to 'know.' My arguements sole purpose is to show that you are contradicting your original basis. Look, I can stand here and say you're wrong about the death penalty. You ask me why? I say because it is morally wrong-(I cannot say it is...
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    Death penalty.

    Yes, yes we're getting somewhere. Endeavours: philosophy, science, math. All lead to the discovery of truth. Science and math are subsections of philosophy. Philosophy's intent is to find the truth. Yes, it is true I can never proove that knowledge, logic, and truth are more valuable...
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    Death penalty.

    The sanctity of life arguement can be made countless times. Even theologians have difficulty explaining it. I have seen no counter arguement that Supreme has proposed that has disproved my original arguement. This is for religion. I can argue with that, because they have a set of defined...
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    Death penalty.

    Religions have axioms... If you look at it from a standard religious standpoint you lead to contradictions. No you have offered no axioms Clayface. Tell me what you value. Human life, material wealth? It is sad to see that you refuse to even develop an ethical system. From where I stand...
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    Death penalty.

    Other people have proposed alternatives. Jail them for the rest of life. Though I would change the Jailing system. Though the point of this debate is whether death penalty is right or wrong. Talking about alternative really has nothing to do with this debate-(I believe this another logical...
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    In 1000 years, what will people think when they look back at our society.

    IMO I hardly think that U.S will be remembered like the Romans (a thousand years!!!). History wise even the British Empire will be remembered more than the U.S. Culturally America is still a child. Its a relatively young country. I don't want to bash America but imo I think every things gets...
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    Death penalty.

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! sorry I had to get that out...this thread is taking too much of my time... Medical research whatever has nothing to do with the arguement. Like me saying if we can travel to the moon we should have got the cure for AIDS. I really have no...
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    Death penalty.

    It is a logical fallacy-plain and simple Answer the question at hand... Is the cost of maintaining a million one prisoners worth the cost of one innocent human life? I cannot understand your system, because you have not shown it to me. You just said that you had no system, no value system...
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    Death penalty.

    The question was directed to Clayface, as he brought up the resource arguement which I believe is weak. The arguement you present is a logical fallacy.
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    Space Wars! Who would win?

    Depends, whos leading the empire, its over if its Admiral Thrawn...the guy is just way too smart (at least the way they write him) Its like bats vs superman thread... Greatest tactical commander ever (Zahn wrote himself into corner)...
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    Death penalty.

    Well I believe I have some sort of basis for a value system that is non-contridictory. My 'attack' on people personal beliefs is bound to happen. Your stance on your death penalty wholly relies on the value system you have. No, you did not read my question. Is the cost, resources, money...
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    Let's Talk About Empathy

    I would consider myself disattached to an extent. Apatheticness is my friend...but I can fake emotions quite well. Though I have a 'friend' who is almost totally disattached. He literaly has no feelings-his parents force him to go to a psychologist but nothing has happened. Apparently its...
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    Death penalty.

    Yep, it is pretty much damned if you do, damned if you don't, but not totally. Agnostics have axioms, Clayface has them (he bases is 'scale' on what exactly?-his axioms). If you do not hold specific axioms, then you're not a catholic. My 'logic'...logic can either be true or false, it is not...
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    In 1000 years, what will people think when they look back at our society.

    Well we could say the wheel is therefore the most important invention. It was eventuality...it would happen no matter what.-(though everything that happened in history is an eventuality) The Greeks did profound things, Philosophy, basically creating mathematics (they were the first to do...

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