Fone Bone
Matt Zimmer
What a dirtbag.
What a dirtbag.
If true. I mean why now?What a dirtbag.
To be frank, the video looked to me, if not staged, then at worst just a bit of horseplay that got a little out of hand. I'm not sure that it's worth all the fuss.Should Ezra get replaced due to this, then I'd like to see Lucas Till replacing him, having impressed with his role in MacGyver.
Correct. It's funny someone playing "Flash" moved that slowly. I think we're all waiting to hear from WB and Miller himself. The silence is very suspicious.To be frank, the video looked to me, if not staged, then at worst just a bit of horseplay that got a little out of hand. I'm not sure that it's worth all the fuss.
Honestly, I would like to see Pattinson reprising his role in a non-Batman film like a possible sequel to Justice League, hence I don't think The Batman is going to be its own thing (i.e. not set in the DCEU).Honestly, at this point WB really only has Harley Quinn (and Suicide Squad), Wonder Woman, and Aquaman as their DCEU films. The Trench is a solo effort and we're lead to believe The Batman is it's own new thing. I have a feeling everything else from the Snyder-verse is going to be slowly left behind.
Oh, but then there is Shazam and Black Adam, which could really stand on their own too if they really wanted to.
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Here's the thing, I don't believe the video is staged at all. It looked too good to be staged.To be frank, the video looked to me, if not staged, then at worst just a bit of horseplay that got a little out of hand. I'm not sure that it's worth all the fuss.
Honestly, at this point WB really only has Harley Quinn (and Suicide Squad),
Wonder Woman, and Aquaman as their DCEU films. The Trench is a solo effort and we're lead to believe The Batman is it's own new thing. I have a feeling everything else from the Snyder-verse is going to be slowly left behind.
Well, I only raised that as one possibility. Horseplay seems more likely. No one in the vid seemed particularly upset as far as I could tell.Here's the thing, I don't believe the video is staged at all. It looked too good to be staged.
I don't even think it's horseplay either.Well, I only raised that as one possibility. Horseplay seems more likely. No one in the vid seemed particularly upset as far as I could tell.
Again with you saying that. There hasn't been any evidence from official news sources that confirms WW84 will do that and I do think we'll still get references or mentions of previous instalments in future films along with that I do think we'll get more teamups or characters showing up in other films in the DCEU. Even if Justice League didn't do well, I don't think they won't do such things like that anymore.Specifically I'm pretty sure Wonder Woman 1984 is going to pretty firmly soft reboot the DCEU and remove any of the non working Snyder elements and thus allow the properties to stand more on their own.
I think it's too early to say at this point. For now I think we should just take ever DC live-action film as a standalone.Again with you saying that. There hasn't been any evidence from official news sources that confirms WW84 will do that and I do think we'll still get references or mentions of previous instalments in future films along with that I do think we'll get more teamups or characters showing up in other films in the DCEU. Even if Justice League didn't do well, I don't think they won't do such things like that anymore.
Here's the thing, he's been saying the same "WW84 will soft reboot the DCEU" stuff for a year as there hasn't been any confirmation on that it will do such plus I think it's also too early to tell on whether or not the upcoming DCEU films will be standalone, but fair enough.I think it's too early to say at this point. For now I think we should just take every DC live-action film as a standalone.
I'm going to be honest but I am getting a bit tired of another isolated trilogy since not every future live-action cinematic depiction of Batman has to be influenced by the Nolan trilogy, not to mention that I would like to see Pattinson's Batman showing up in non-Batman DCEU films that sets up a soft reboot of Justice League, much like how The Suicide Squad is the soft reboot of Suicide Squad but that's just me.WB is in a unique kinda bind. They have the option to continue with in-universe films, standalones, or like Joker; experimental. Depending on the contracts, I have a feeling The Batman is an isolated trilogy like Nolan's.
Well I do know that prior to his departure in early 2019, Affleck was still attached to this following Reeves' arrival that led to his screenplay being scrapped following the failure of his recent directorial effort Live by Night.Reeves finished someone else's trilogy, now I bet wants his own. I think that's why he protested doing it, cause I think WB wanted to continue with the DCEU Batman, but no longer. That's why the old scripts with Deathstroke are out.
Again with you saying that. There hasn't been any evidence from official news sources that confirms WW84 will do that and I do think we'll still get references or mentions of previous instalments in future films along with that I do think we'll get more teamups or characters showing up in other films in the DCEU. Even if Justice League didn't do well, I don't think they won't do such things like that anymore.
As for Flash, it's a real shame that Miller appeared in CW. Now we'll probably never see a follow-up on this Flash.
I don't think they've explicitly confirmed the "canonicity" of Pattinson's Batman one thing or another, just that his Batman is standalone. Practically every DC movie now is, more or less, aside from sequels.Yeah the reason they haven't officially said that is because admitting doing a soft reboot like this before it happens would not only ruin the "surprise" but also be an admission of failure from DC they don't want to officially make. It goes against their original plans and image but obviously is the route they're taking now realizing what didn't work and fixing to improve that. And quite honestly they can still have references and maybe even a cameo here and there from other popular builds and franchises as the reboot would just remove pretty much everything more hard core connected to Zack Snyder's involvement. Specifically anything Henry Cavill Superman related and Ben Affleck Batman related. And yeah it has been confirmed in multiple interviews that Robert Pattison's Batman takes place in the DCEU and is a part of that set of worlds so yeah the fact that the next movies right after Wonder Woman 1984 are reboots of both Batman and Suicide Squad say to me "we're doing do overs on what didn't work with things we're more confident will." I don't really know why you're upset by that man as all the best aspects are still being kept just going to be a better overall universe.
Execs definitely wanted to keep Miller. They were the ones who pushed for his cameo in Crisis and it's the only explanation for why they've allowed the movie to be delayed this long, especially if Miller has also been the breaking point with some of the directors.Again to me the Flash appearing on Flash's Crisis of Infinite Earth episode to me is more a sign that someone still at least wanted to keep Miller around because they were confirming he was a part of the overall DC mythos and was put in something after JL flopped which yeah you aren't going to see with say Ray Fischer's Cyborg. But after all this it does feel really doubtful we'll see a follow up to this film at all. Which... could be sad I guess was hard to get any sort of pulse on what exactly this movie was going to be as we kept hearing conflicting things about it's potential.
I don't think they've explicitly confirmed the "canonicity" of Pattinson's Batman one thing or another, just that his Batman is standalone. Practically every DC movie now is, more or less, aside from sequels.
Execs definitely wanted to keep Miller. They were the ones who pushed for his cameo in Crisis and it's the only explanation for why they've allowed the movie to be delayed this long, especially if Miller has also been the breaking point with some of the directors.
My question for you all is can this film even happen? To make it fair, let's say WB allows Miller to stay on after this point. With other films moved ahead.
Shazam and Aquaman are, I think, the last movies that will really reference direct DCEU stuff. I will be very surprised if there is anything overt in Reeve's film.Yeah but there's a difference between being standalone in your own separate universe and just being in a totally different world. Like Shazam! Is standalone but still exists in the DCEU, while Joker does not. Also there has been leaks and talks of this movie taking place in the DCEU
DC executive hints 'The Batman' may take place in the DCEU with Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad
DC's Jim Lee openly used the term "DC Extended Universe," signaling the brand has finally accepted its destiny. Here's why that's a big deal for 2021's 'The Batman.'www.inverse.com
And again I could be proven wrong and Wonder Woman 1984 won't reboot anything but honestly seems to me that's what they are doing and I've yet to heard anything that deconfirms that..
If they were interested in brand cohesion I think they would have tried harder to keep Cavill, Affleck, Leto, etc.I'm guessing it's for brand cohesion as they really only want to recast an actor if the actor themselves is done with the role or it's a small enough part to easily recast without issue as otherwise they have a lot of brand loyalty for Miller who... hasn't really proven himself much of a gigantic draw on his own. I mean I love The Perks of Being A Wallfower but... he doesn't really have major mainstream cred at all that would warrant such loyalty. Even within the Fantastic Beast stories he's like a B player that no one singled out as a saving grace for those films or anything.
Here's the thing. The problem with you excessively repeating the same "WW84 being a soft reboot" stuff is that you never given us any evidence in order to back up your point, that's why I don't buy it at all, especially that there hasn't been any official news sources that reported it in the first place and you come off as making it up and acting as if you have sources to back it up, when really you don't.And again I could be proven wrong and Wonder Woman 1984 won't reboot anything but honestly seems to me that's what they are doing and I've yet to heard anything that deconfirms that..
Well, I am hoping that Cavill stays on (given he said that he still would love to reprise his role in a future film in interviews promoting The Witcher) and that Leto gets replaced by someone else (as much as I like Suicide Squad, his Joker was really, really bad).If they were interested in brand cohesion I think they would have tried harder to keep Cavill, Affleck, Leto, etc.