DC Comics Animation - Blu-ray/DVD/Digital News & Discussion Thread, Part 19 (Spoilers)

James Harvey · Jul 27, 2014

Yojimbo · Jul 28, 2014

Interesting they chose the same day Assault on Arkham comes out (mass release).

It sounds like in addition to the Young Justice Season 1 Blu-Ray news, they also confirmed a Batman: The Brave and The Bold Season 2 Blu-Ray at the panel? This article says WAC will announce its release date on their twitter soon.
SDCC: 'Young Justice' Season 1 Blu-Ray Release Date/'Batman: Brave & the Bold Season 2 Blu-Ray" Announced

Kirben · Jul 28, 2014

Yojimbo said:
It sounds like in addition to the Young Justice Season 1 Blu-Ray news, they also confirmed a Batman: The Brave and The Bold Season 2 Blu-Ray at the panel? This article says WAC will announce its release date on their twitter soon.
SDCC: 'Young Justice' Season 1 Blu-Ray Release Date/'Batman: Brave & the Bold Season 2 Blu-Ray" Announced

Actually the Blu-Ray release of Batman: The Brave and the Bold Season 2 was confirmed several weeks ago, there was a flyer in Future's End book offered on Free Comic Day.

Yojimbo · Jul 28, 2014

Kirben said:
Actually the Blu-Ray release of Batman: The Brave and the Bold Season 2 was confirmed several weeks ago, there was a flyer in Future's End book offered on Free Comic Day.

Yeah, I know that, but what I was asking was if they really acknowledged the title, too, at the panel or only focused on the YJ Blu-Ray. For instance - did anyone attend the panel, see any other article than the one I posted with more detail, video clips, twitter posts, etc.

-batmat- · Jul 28, 2014

I wonder why they left Miss Martian out of the cover!

Yojimbo · Jul 29, 2014

-batmat- said:
I wonder why they left Miss Martian out of the cover!

She's there. Just in camouflage mode. j/k

She's on the menu screen with the others, though.

Peter Paltridge · Jul 29, 2014

Dang, that's quick. 15 days it is then! I'll be there!

Pfeiffer-Pfan · Jul 29, 2014

Sounds like we will be getting some special features on the next batch of Warner Archive Blu-Ray's:

Any special features?” Not on S1. Now S2...

Greg Weisman Twitter

-batmat- · Jul 31, 2014

So within the line of the DC Animated Movies, if Throne of Atlantis is getting released early 2015, there will be no more releases this year? Maybe something ala TDRK Deluxe? If not, it's weird that they release 3 movies in the first half of the year and then nothing the second half...

BigFatHairyDeal · Jul 31, 2014

If you want to be technical, July/August is 3Q, so we get stuff in the second half of 2014. The Sneak Peek mentioned fall of 2014, but I guess that's not going to happen.

The following is in regard to a post I read in another thread, but I'm going to post here for relevance:

From the DTV era beginning in 2007, I'd say the best movies were all under Timm, but that has almost everything to do with source material. Wonder Woman was probably the best original story. Other than that, the particularly good stories IMO were just adaptations. I know Crisis on Two Earths gets a lot of love, but I thought it was only appealing because we had a proper Crime Syndicate story, and it was re-tooled JL story so for many fans it had sentimental value. I otherwise thought it wasn't particularly outstanding or noteworthy. I can't say, though, that stories like Superman: Doomsday, either Superman/Batman movie, Gotham Knights, either GL movie, Doom, etc. are so obviously better movies than Flashpoint Paradox, Assault on Arkham, or Son of Batman. I don't think the current guys get enough credit when fans insist that if Bruce Timm came back, then there'd be a huge uptick in quality.

If anything, I'm guessing that the quality level has stagnated/plateaued, with a few exceptions, but expectations generally remain high, and you know what they say about expectations.

-batmat- · Jul 31, 2014

BigFatHairyDeal said:
If you want to be technical, July/August is 3Q, so we get stuff in the second half of 2014. The Sneak Peek mentioned fall of 2014, but I guess that's not going to happen.

The following is in regard to a post I read in another thread, but I'm going to post here for relevance:

From the DTV era beginning in 2007, I'd say the best movies were all under Timm, but that has almost everything to do with source material. Wonder Woman was probably the best original story. Other than that, the particularly good stories IMO were just adaptations. I know Crisis on Two Earths gets a lot of love, but I thought it was only appealing because we had a proper Crime Syndicate story, and it was re-tooled JL story so for many fans it had sentimental value. I otherwise thought it wasn't particularly outstanding or noteworthy. I can't say, though, that stories like Superman: Doomsday, either Superman/Batman movie, Gotham Knights, either GL movie, Doom, etc. are so obviously better movies than Flashpoint Paradox, Assault on Arkham, or Son of Batman. I don't think the current guys get enough credit when fans insist that if Bruce Timm came back, then there'd be a huge uptick in quality.

If anything, I'm guessing that the quality level has stagnated/plateaued, with a few exceptions, but expectations generally remain high, and you know what they say about expectations.

-Well, but if you have 3 releases in one year, I'd spread them a little more in the year, 1 every 4 months, cause now the wait is too long!

-If it has to do with the source material, then it's the people who are in charge now's fault anyway, cause they choose the source material (and if they not, then the people who do gets the blame).
I think to the movies you listed, the only exception is Flashpoint Paradox, because movies like Doom or Emerald Knights might not be very complex but they are very enjoyable, and I enjoyed every movie you listed there with maybe a 1 or 2 exceptions, with JL: War and Assault On Arkham I was cringing while watching the movies.

I'm not trying to be a blind-Bruce Timm fanatic that says that when he was in charge everything was better just because I'm a crazy BT fan, well, no. But it is true in the most part with very few exceptions. The designs are getting away from the simplistic and fabolous style that gave us great animation, into intricate, complicated and a lot of times just ugly charactes designs.

I'm noy saying this in a THIS IS HOW IT IS kind of way, but just simply stating my opinion of how I'd like things to be and how I used to enjoy these movies much more and how I've been let down with the most recent entries (flashpoint aside).

Then there's also the violence moments that simply don't make sence, like when in Son of Batman, Damian gets a sword through his both arms and keeps fighting like nothing happened, or in the most recent Assault on Arkham, where

The Jokers stabs repeatedly Deadshot but it seems to have no effect on him, as he pulls through and defeats him.

So when you put everything together, the stories, the character designs, the animation, etc, in my opinion, I don't like the way things are heading, and I miss the way things were when B.T. was involved.

BigFatHairyDeal · Jul 31, 2014

Oh yeah, I think some of the violence lately has been almost slapstick. Granted, there were some bad instances pre-2013 in animation, and I've complained about that before. The one that really grinds my gears is when guys go flying through windshields and barely have a scratch on them. I fully agree with your complaint, and those instances you mentioned above did strike me as silly when I watched the movies.

I also agree that even spacing of releases is a good thing. A six month gap between releases is going to feel torturous.

With regard to designs, I would also agree that things are done differently now, and I would say I probably preferred it when they emulated the source material art. This is no slight to the current designers, as I actually like what they put out, but there's something kind of neat about adapting the story and the look as opposed to just the story.

Now as for the source material selection, that's kind of hard to argue because arguing quality of story generally gets complicated. I think, though, that when you adapt a story that's generally critically acclaimed, and it ends up being fairly faithful, fans will love the movie. Likewise, if you adapt a book that got average reviews, and you remain mostly faithful, you're going to get mediocre reviews for your movie. Books like New Frontier, All-Star Superman, and Batman: Year One are so well-regarded by fans, it's hard to make bad movies out of them. Most of the other adapted books, though, got more mixed reviews. Also, between 2007 and now, we had assortments of super-faithful adaptations (look at the Miller stories), and not-so-faithful adaptations (Superman: Doomsday comes to mind, and I'm guessing Son of Batman, too, though I can't confirm because I never read it). If we were to critique the current crew, we could say that when they took liberties, they didn't do enough to make the source material better, or in some cases might've made the source material worse, but those are critiques that could've been made in the prior era, as well.

To be fair, though, there should be pressure for the current guys to make a movie that gets as high marks as the best movies from the Timm era.

-batmat- · Jul 31, 2014

I agree! Hopefully they can pull it off.

Yojimbo · Aug 15, 2014

WAC released a new podcast with Greg Weisman, Brandon Vietti, Jason Spisak and Stephanie Lemelin to promote the Blu-Ray. Fun listen.
Young Justice - Season 1 Interview The Warner... | Warner Archive

mrbean1500 · Aug 16, 2014

Yojimbo said:
WAC released a new podcast with Greg Weisman, Brandon Vietti, Jason Spisak and Stephanie Lemelin to promote the Blu-Ray. Fun listen.
Young Justice - Season 1 Interview The Warner... | Warner Archive

lemin mentioned the dvd commentary... there was one? Maybe I should pick up the dvds

Yojimbo · Aug 16, 2014

mrbean1500 said:
lemin mentioned the dvd commentary... there was one? Maybe I should pick up the dvds

Not that I know of. I was under the impression that Season 1 is just the 26 episodes. I believe Ms. Lemelin was alluding to the Season 2 Blu-Ray when she wasn't supposed to. Greg Weisman was cryptic about there being special features on the Season 2 Blu. Since WAC operates on the MOD model, these animated releases have been budgeted for 13 or 26 episode sets. And YJ Season 2 is 20 episodes. In theory, they could budget it as a 26 episode set and have 6 episode's worth budget leftover to provide special features such as audio commentary. I welcome that theory to be true.

M.O.D.O.K. · Aug 16, 2014

Yojimbo said:
WAC released a new podcast with Greg Weisman, Brandon Vietti, Jason Spisak and Stephanie Lemelin to promote the Blu-Ray. Fun listen.
Young Justice - Season 1 Interview The Warner... | Warner Archive

Shorter than I expected, but it was still a fun listen.

I hope they continue to do these ones for future releases of Batman: The Brave and the Bold and Beware the Batman.

GWOtaku · Aug 17, 2014

No date yet, but a product listing has emerged for the Blu-ray collection for Brave and the Bold S2 that's been advertised as "coming soon" since spring.

Amazon.com: Batman: The Brave and The Bold - The Complete Second Season [Blu-ray]: Movies & TV

James Harvey · Aug 20, 2014

The official details for Batman: The Brave and The Bold: The Complete Second Season - hitting shelves September 9th, 2014 - are now up at The World's Finest and the show's subsite.

the greenman · Aug 20, 2014

I'm encouraged to hear Matches Malone is on this set, but which version?

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